Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcvax!ukc!dcl-cs!aber-cs!pcg From: pcg@aber-cs.UUCP (Piercarlo Grandi) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc Subject: Re: sigh (was Re: Short-circuiting a route) Message-ID: <1062@aber-cs.UUCP> Date: 7 Jul 89 12:02:55 GMT Reply-To: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk (Piercarlo Grandi) Organization: Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth (Disclaimer: my statements are purely personal) Lines: 35 In article <656@kl-cs.UUCP> jonathan@cs.keele.ac.uk (Jonathan Knight) writes: As I understand it, the argument for re-routing and short-circuiting revolves around the idea that some people feel they know how to route mail better than the people who started the mail off. Precisely. And they think that all domain names (saying Fully Qualified is a bit risky as the domain name space is not really rooted...) are Internet ones about which they know everything so that they can second guess the sender. Re-routing is very impolite, if I want my mail routed then I won't put a route on it, but if I do put a route on it then I'd be grateful if people would use it. If the sys admins think that they can route mail better than I can, then declare yourselves as forwarders for those domains and I will gladly dump my mail on you for you to route. Agreed. The net world is much stranger than most people believe, and the golden net rule "I carry your traffic, you carry my traffic, no questions asked", is the one that does keep it all together, and rerouting (as opposed to routing, which is legitimate, when the sender gives an underspecified route, like a@b) whether wanton or supposedly justified by supposedly all Internet registered domain names violates it. That's why people feel strongly about it. (note: the golden rule of course has one limit: money, i.e. balanced expense. Everybody praises backbone sites that forward more traffic than they generate, as anybody dislikes the free riders that try to do the opposite. Thank goodness the former are many and generous). Thank you for your arguments supporting this. -- Piercarlo "Peter" Grandi | ARPA: pcg%cs.aber.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk Dept of CS, UCW Aberystwyth | UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!aber-cs!pcg Penglais, Aberystwyth SY23 3BZ, UK | INET: pcg@cs.aber.ac.uk