Xref: utzoo comp.mail.misc:2089 alt.religion.computers:69 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!cdin-1!ki4pv!tanner From: tanner@ki4pv.uucp (Dr. T. Andrews) Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,alt.religion.computers Subject: Re: sigh (was Re: Short-circuiting a route) Summary: "incredible" claim made that mail is correctly originated Message-ID: <7102@ki4pv.uucp> Date: 8 Jul 89 13:49:13 GMT References: <1062@aber-cs.UUCP> <59767@uunet.UU.NET> Organization: Sisters of Perpetual Reluctance Flogging House and Computer Center Lines: 36 In article <59767@uunet.UU.NET>, rick@uunet.UU.NET (Rick Adams) writes: jk-) As I understand it, the argument for re-routing and short-circuiting jk-) revolves around the idea that some people feel they know how jk-) to route mail better than the people who started the mail off. ) Does anyone seriously claim that this is not true? Yes, I would claim that it is not true that a re-router reliably knows more about mail routing than the person who started the mail off. It doesn't take a very bright person to know how to route mail, after all (comments about management aside); all it takes is a reasonably intelligent postmaster at the originating site. He arranges for some useful set of maps to be available and used automatically, teaches his users to write "name@dest.site", and voila! the user has learned to route mail. In order for the re-router to justify his action, he must demonstrate that his maps are better than those used to route the mail originally. Further, in order to be considered a good person, he must assure that his re-routings NEVER cause a problem which would not exist had he not re-routed. Judging from the steady stream of complaints about rabid re- routers, I would guess that re-routers have failed on this second requirement. ) I'm not arguing in favor of rerouting, but I can't conceive of ) even a tiny fraction of mail be routed optimally to begin with. Define optimally. Here, to give you a start, is how we define it. We say that mail is routed optimally if it is routed according to the published maps, as amended by local wisdom (local map files). Most if not all mail coming out of here is so routed, because the mailer takes care of such details. -- ...!bikini.cis.ufl.edu!ki4pv!tanner ...!bpa!cdin-1!ki4pv!tanner or... {allegra killer gatech!uflorida uunet!cdin-1}!ki4pv!tanner