Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!att!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cwjcc!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bionet!apple!arc!steve From: steve@arc.UUCP (Steve Savitzky) Newsgroups: comp.std.misc Subject: Re: User Interface Standards -- *Keyboards!* Keywords: keyboards,standardize,plug-n-play,freedom,ADB Message-ID: <447@arc.UUCP> Date: 17 Jul 89 17:30:30 GMT References: <115518@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> <13@ark1.nswc.navy.mil> <440@arc.UUCP> <14@ark1.nswc.navy.mil> <442@arc.UUCP> <17@ark1.nswc.navy.mil> Reply-To: steve@arc.UUCP (Steve Savitzky) Organization: Advansoft Research Corp, Santa Clara, CA Lines: 38 In article <17@ark1.nswc.navy.mil> dsill@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Dave Sill) writes: > I don't see how you can run a mouse >over a PC keyboard connection and have it work like one of the common >PC mice such as Microsoft or Logitech. Am I missing something? Actually, Logitech used to sell one. It requires modifying the keyboard driver. (I think you realized this later.) [about the ADB] >Do we agree that that's a quality-of-implementation issue and not a >flaw in the concept? Yes, though "implementation" may include the spec itself (i.e. it may well be specified in such a way as to make the fuse-blowing problem unfixable--I'd have to check). ... Me, I'd love to see an I/O interface spec. Something along the lines of Ethernet + TCP-IP + X11 (since we seem to agree that it won't happen anytime soon). Ethernet bandwidth (or the equivalent in wireless IR link) would make it bidirectional, which is important for things like position-of-head-sensing stereo-view helmets (which I want). You need to be able to send high-quality audio both ways, too. Hey, maybe we should just say "That's the new standard" and stand back :-). At least one company (Agilis?) has announced a laptop workstation with the pieces tied together with Ethernet, so it's not impossibly farfetched. And X has always seemed like the right way to talk to a display controller... -- Steve Savitzky | steve@arc.uucp | apple.com!arc!steve ADVANsoft Research Corp. | (408) 727-3357(w) / 294-6492(h) 4301 Great America Parkway | #include Santa Clara, CA 95054 | May the Source be with you!