Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!oliveb!amiga!cbmvax!unland From: unland@cbmvax.UUCP (Rick Unland - Regional Support) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Mouse buttons (and Boing! Mouse.) Message-ID: <7235@cbmvax.UUCP> Date: 7 Jul 89 05:57:53 GMT References: <8907031413.AA11261@jade.berkeley.edu> <1713@ucqais.uc.edu> <7593@cs.Buffalo.EDU> <7213@cbmvax.UUCP> <446@gtss.gatech.edu> Reply-To: unland@cbmvax.UUCP (Rick Unland - Regional Support) Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA Lines: 67 In article <446@gtss.gatech.edu> chas@gtss.gatech.edu (Charles Cleveland) writes: $In article <7213@cbmvax.UUCP> unland@cbmvax.UUCP (Rick Unland - Regional Support) writes: $) $)Fantastic, incredible, smooth, accurate, well made, and it handles like a $) $) .... Teh one thing that some people find is that the first time $)they go to an opticle mouse is that it has to be kept perpendicular to the pad $)at all times or the results will be disconcerting. In article <446@gtss.gatech.edu> chas@gtss.gatech.edu (Charles Clevland) writes $ $With an optical mouse, the pad determines what is right and left, and what is $up and down. It doesn't matter how you hold the mouse or whether it lines up $with the orientation of the pad at all. If you move the mouse to the right on $the pad, the cursor moves to the right. Etc. Many people like this. This is partially true and partially false, First you claim that the Pad determines what is up and down, which after thinking about it is absolutely correct. But then you contradict yourself by stating "It doesnt matter how you hold the mouse or wether it lines up with the orientation of the pad at all". This is where I disagree completely, I am using the Boing! mouse at this very minute and if I turn the orientation of the pad to be where moving the mouse to the right or the left will move corner to corner relative to the mouse pad then the pointer on the screen will move in a diagonal line between the lower left and upper right corners. What this means is that (and this came from Dale himself) due to the mouse using two light sources and the pad having two distinctly different sets of lines (One is visible light the other is infrared, Visible is left to right and Infrared is up and down) Then how you hold the mouse relative to the pad is very important. I will say that there is an amount of forgivable skew that can be applied to the mouse where the results obtained are just less accurate rather than disconcerting to the new user. I still feel that this is the best mouse for the job and the best mouse won! $ $With a balled mouse, the cursor moves to the right if you move the mouse to $the right with respect to its current orientation, which could be in an $arbitrary orientation with respect to an external reference frame, such as $my wife's idea of what is right and left, as opposed to up and down, on the $desk top. Etc. Many people like this. $ $An optical mouse does not have to be kept perpendicular to the pad. But to $move to the right you must move the mouse to the right (as a whole, rotations $don't count) with respect to the pad. $ This is the same statement and it is still wrong, You cannot rotate the mouse in other that 90 or 180 degree increments relative to the pad. Even if you only rotate it 90 degrees the results are far less than perfect due to the resolution difference in the lines running through the pad. Also if your Wife has trouble with hand and eye coordination then I would think a "balled" mouse (Read Happy) would be less troublesome due to the fact that all she would have to do to move the mouse in a specific direction would be to push it that way relative to her own hand and not the pad. Which is exactly the way mouse of my artist friends use thier's and are very happy with it. Is this quite clear now? Or shall I go on. Its clear to me but you can go over it again if you want to. %^) -- ******* Rick Unland Commodore Business Machines **************************** * Usenet: uunet!cbmvax!unland ARPA: cbmvax!unland!@uunet.UU.NET * * Standard Disclaimer: If I said it, I was drunk! * * If I didn't say it, I wasn't drunk enough! * * "I thought they said the Commodore could stand up to anything!" * *********************************************** Earth Girls Are Easy! **********