Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!sunybcs!ugkamins@marvin.cs.buffalo.edu From: ugkamins@marvin.cs.buffalo.edu (Dr. R. Chandra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: 9600 bps Modems Message-ID: <7699@cs.Buffalo.EDU> Date: 10 Jul 89 05:48:18 GMT References: <11167@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com> <380027@hpdml93.HP.COM> Sender: nobody@cs.Buffalo.EDU Reply-To: ugkamins@marvin.cs.buffalo.edu (Dr. R. Chandra) Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science Lines: 49 In-reply-to: stephen@hpdml93.HP.COM (Stephen Holmstead) In article <380027@hpdml93.HP.COM>, stephen@hpdml93 (Stephen Holmstead) writes: =>_baud_ refers to "symbols per second" in the transfer rate. In older =>modems (ie. 1200bps, 300bps, etc), each symbol comprised one bit worth =>of data (one frequency was used to represent a ZERO and another was used =>to represent a ONE). Thus, 1200 baud equals 1200 bps. However, when =>people began increase the transfer rate, it only worked when there was a =>direct connection. However, when trying to use the telephone system, =>the maximum transfer rate is about 2400 baud. This is due to the =>multiplexing done on the telephone lines. It sounds like when you are Well, just as you said you HAD to jump in and correct, I feel I must do the same for(?) you. BAUD refers to "transitions per second." Virtually all the literature I have read states that the maximum data transfer rate attainable on a PSTN line is 1200 baud TOTAL, meaning 600 baud in each direction. Sorry, but unless you are not talking about Bell 212A, each direction is going at 600 baud twice over, once for FSK and the other for PSK. Such arrangements are referred to as dibits, or "two bits." Data rates (bps) that are faster are accomplished by means of AM, multiple carriers, and dividing the phase transitions into more phase angles. The best explanation I've seen so far, which also jives with other sources I've seen too, is _C Programmer's Guide to Serial Communications_ by Joe Campbell, pub. by Howard W. Sams & Co. It is also quite true that communications companies multiplex their traffic to achieve higher rates, both voice and data (the latter with PS/VAN's). As stated in this book, it is not (necessarily) the fault of multiplexing of the phone "conversations," but the historical (to be read conservative) nature of PSTN service. It is meant to be optimized for clear communication for voice, not faithful reproduction of sound, or transmittal of data. (The major constraint is bandwidth--from about 300 to 3K Hz. Fitting two carriers for 212A plus their associated sidebands when modulated is a miracle to me.) I agree with you, though. I *HATE* when people blur the distinctions between baud rate and data rate. --- a-WYSIWYG, a-WYSIWIG _ _ a-WYSIWYG, a-WYSIWIG //// a-WYSIWYG, a-WYSIWIG //// a-WYSIWYG, a-WYSIWIG //// In the jungle _ _ //// The silicon jungle \\\\ //// The process sleeps tonight \\\//// \_X_/ ugkamins@sunybcs.UUCP (UnderGraduate john i. KAMINSki) --