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From: david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: IS MT UUCP Legal??
Keywords: atari st, gnu, uucp
Message-ID: <613@bdt.UUCP>
Date: 15 Jul 89 02:22:39 GMT
References: <4456ee6c.14a1f@gtephx.UUCP> <1602@atari.UUCP>
Reply-To: david@bdt.UUCP (David Beckemeyer)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Beckemeyer Development Tools, Oakland, CA
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I worked very closely with John Gillmore (hoptoad!gnu) the author of GNUUCP
and a close partner in the GNU project before I released the MT UUCP stuff.

We discussed *EXACTLY* what I was doing and what I intended to do with
GNUUCP.   I found out exactly how to handle the distribution of GNUUCP,
with the agreement of John Gillmore and GNU.

Apparently the license for GNUUCP is slightly different from that of GCC.
In fact, GNUUCP has never become an official part of the GNU distribution
as far as I know.

I distribute the GNUUCP license I received from John Gillmore with
every copy of MT UUCP.   I'm not going to post the whole license.  It
is similar to the GCC license that Allan Pratt posted, but differs
in a few particular areas.

The relavent things regarding the GNUUCP license are:

	1)  I make the GNUUCP source code availabe for three years at
	    a nominal cost, as required by the license.  Some parts
	    of the MT UUCP are *NOT* covered under the GNU license.

	2)  I am not selling a derivative work of GNUUCP.   I am
	    selling my programs, the manual, and a warrantee and
	    professional support service.  The service includes
	    technical support and a free BBS and also UUCP
	    connections.

	3)  All the appropriate GNU Copyright notices are present.

	4)  The fact that my programs are distributed on a disk
	    that also has GNUUCP doesn't mean that they are part
	    of GNUUCP or controlled by the GNU license.

I made a lot of modifications to the GNUUCP programs to add MT support.
I wrote some new programs, deriving some of the code from GNUUCP.
I wrote some programs from scratch, unrelated to GNUUCP.

All the code that I wrote which contains even one line from anything
in GNUUCP are covered by the GNU license and are available to anybody
who wants it, for a small copying fee.   The programs that are not
derived from GNUUCP are not available except with MT C-Shell UUCP.
You don't get UUCP support or the manual or access to the UUCP BBS
files unless you are a registered owner of MT C-Shell UUCP.

I made the full source available to AT&T and GNU.  They all agree that
the portions which are written and copyrighted by me aren't derived from
their code.   

Is everybody happy?

-- 
David Beckemeyer (david@bdt.UUCP)	| "Adios amigos.  And, as they say when 
Beckemeyer Development Tools		| the boys are scratching the bad ones,
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UUCP: {uunet,ucbvax}!unisoft!bdt!david	|                  - Jo Mora