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From: davidsen@sungod.crd.ge.com (William Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: 251 Wierdness (summary)
Keywords: who's in charge at Seagate anyway?
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Date: 11 Jul 89 13:58:05 GMT
References: <962@hydra.gatech.EDU>
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In article <962@hydra.gatech.EDU> russ@prism.gatech.EDU (Russell Shackelford) writes:
| couple of weeks ago, i got on the net and whined for help about my
| ST-251 working just fine BUT not booting the machine like it should.
| 
| responses indicated that there's LOTS of unhappy st-251 owners in this
| world.

	Seagate sells more hard disks than all others combined (source:
_Computer Retailer_) and I'm sure they have more unhappy customers than
anyone else, just as GM has more unhappy owners than Yugo. There are
also millions of us who are putting together systems with Seagates and
not complaining.


| 1) motor not spinning up to speed
| 2) an unspecified "bad chip" that various folks have had replaced at
|    prices ranging from $75 to $125.
| 3) stuck "park" mechanism

	You didn't mention the static brush problems, which can cause
noise and slow spinup.

| 4) bad cables (not applicable in my situation; i checked and swapped)
| 5) bad power supply and/or connectors (not applicable either, to me)

	What has this to do with Seagate?

| i do NOT know what the truth is in my situation.  i did determine that
| the resisistor pack had not been removed from the second HD, so i fixed
| that and have had no problems since.  

	But you're knocking Seagate again, aren't you?

| PS: does Seagate have anything to say about this?  Do they care?
| Do they issue tech/service updates?  Does it matter to them that
| myself and others are now very leary of their products? Does anybody
| know?

	Why badmouth the company because you have one disk with problems
(which you admit was installed incorrectly)? Every company makes some
bad disks, ask anyone who sells a few thousand.

	Better watch out for CDC, I believe that Seagate just bought
their disk business.
	bill davidsen		(davidsen@crdos1.crd.GE.COM)
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