Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!bridge2!ngg From: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM (Norman Goodger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac Subject: Re: Red Ryder 11.0 Message-ID: <786@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> Date: 7 Jul 89 20:13:45 GMT References: <14304@ut-emx.UUCP> <769@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> <14171@dartvax.Dartmouth.EDU> <780@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM> <4297@uhccux.uhcc.hawaii.edu> Reply-To: ngg@bridge2.3Com.com (Norman Goodger) Organization: 3Com Corp., Mt. View, CA Lines: 46 In article wb1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (William M. Bumgarner) writes: >Nope, it just ain't so. I have seen RR 11.0 (Scott demoed it to the local >user's group). Throughput has been greatly improved, but that isn't saying >much compared to 10.3. >A friend ran ProComm+ under SoftPC (on a Mac IIcx) and timed it against RR 11.0 >on the same IIcx (w/ and w/o multifinder, ProComm=/SoftPC ran w/MultiFinder), >and RR 11.0 was either slower or the same speed as ProComm/SoftPC. >The brain-damaged user-interface in 10.3 has become even more brain-damaged; >all but a few menu-items are hierarchial. Even command-strokes are >hierarchial; cmd-s, cmd-l to open a settings file (Settings Load). It works, >and really isn't that bad, but the way scott implemented it, once you hit >the first command key, the next command key hit (no matter if it is >immediately following or 20 hours later) is interpreted as the sencond >commmand stroke-- very confusing at times). The phone-book is still >like the old one, only the door doesn't 'pop' open. >The scripting language has NOT been improved; path names are still hard- >coded and still have the x character limit. Want to lock up 11.0? Just >move the folder that contains your script files and then select a user >created menu item that tries to execute one of those scripts-- Red goes >into an infinite loop of trying to execute a moved file. >And it doesn't end there.... While I am not sure what version you saw, but a variety of changes have occured since the demo you saw....however you appear to be a person that would not be satisfied no matter what was done, and if you prefer to spend big $$ for your terminal program that does not much more than RR does, thats your privelege. The problem with commenting as you do about early beta versions is that things change, and what will actually ship will not be like what you are talking about... Other problems are how to compare actual file transfer speed, there are specific conditions under which file transfer speeds should be tested, and your comparison is not a good one. There are also limits on how fast transfers will go...RR11 will keep up with the best of them in my opinion now... nuff said I guess....we all have our own opinions...you will have to decide for yourself as others will when the time comes. -- Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 3Com Corp. Co-SysOp FreeSoft RT - GEnie. Enterprise Systems Division (I disclaim anything and everything) UUCP: {3comvax,auspex,sun}!bridge2!ngg Internet: ngg@bridge2.ESD.3Com.COM