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From: ech@cbnewsk.ATT.COM (ned.horvath)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: C++ for the Mac
Message-ID: <654@cbnewsk.ATT.COM>
Date: 18 Jul 89 18:43:52 GMT
References: <9598@fluke.COM>
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
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From article <9598@fluke.COM>, by mce@tc.fluke.COM (Brian McElhinney):
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> This brings the list of Macintosh C++ vaporware to three: Apple (available in
> beta Real Soon Now, but under slooow MPW), Symantec/THINK (who knows when, but
> presumably it will be fast), and now Glockenspiel (also runs under MPW?).

That is not entirely accurate (where's Rich?): Symantec/THINK has stated that
they intend to support some kind of O-O C extension someday.  They did demo
a prerelease "Object C" at January MacWorld.  It ISN'T C++, and it ISN'T
announced.  Thus the term "vaporware" is unfair to Think.  Of course, holding
your breath for a Think product could be unfair, too...

I'd be interested in some details about the Glockenspiel product.  One of the
uglier aspects of the announced MPW C++ is that you won't be able to mix
the handle-based Object Pascal class library -- including MacApp -- with
the pointer-based C++ class library (both will be supported, but they
will not be able to inherit from each other).  If the Glockenspiel app
shell is integrated smoothly with the C++ 2.0 library, it will have clear
advantages.

Also, the full power of MPW C++ will be available ONLY in applications:
method dispatching will use global variables, which the brain-damaged
MPW linker STILL insists must be A5-relative.

=Ned Horvath=