Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!rice!sun-spots-request From: weltyc@cs.rpi.edu (Christopher A. Welty) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun Subject: Re: Slow service results -- what do we do ?? Keywords: Miscellaneous Message-ID: <4190@kalliope.rice.edu> Date: 30 Jun 89 17:34:17 GMT Sender: usenet@rice.edu Organization: Sun-Spots Lines: 36 Approved: Sun-Spots@rice.edu X-Sun-Spots-Digest: Volume 8, Issue 55, message 6 of 12 In article <3733@kalliope.rice.edu> 91erm@bigbird.cc.williams.edu (Evan Moore) writes: >X-Sun-Spots-Digest: Volume 8, Issue 19, message 4 of 9 > >Hmmmm. As we all know, Sun has been getting really low marks in the >service department these days. We all groan and moan, and really get >peeved when Sun comes around to renew contracts. But what do we do ?? I have found three basic flaws in Sun service: 1) Delivery. Sun has the worst delivery record of any company we have ever dealt with. They claim that they have fixed this problem by installed a new inventory control system or something. I'll believe it when we get something on time. 2) Software support. Say no more... 3) Saleslies. I have complained many times that the salesforce, whether they themselves are knowlingly lying or are being told lies by their own company, lie a lot. Especially when they are talking about 1+2 above. We have found ways to begin dealing with these three issues. For #1, ask for a guaranteed delivery date. They will do this, although it will push back your delivery date by a month (who cares, they won't meet it anyway). Ask for $$ per day late, also make sure you do this AFTER you cut the deal, so they don't add the late charge they will inevitably pay to the price of the equipment. For #2, I read sunspots. For #3, sunspots also proves useful, as does the solution to #1, and also pressure to move to other vendors. Sun no longer dominates the price/performance arena as they used to, DEC and Solbourne are making impressive and attractive offers, which has kept our Sun office jumping. They have become far more helpful since we started considering others (capitalism is a beautiful thing). Christopher Welty --- Asst. Director, RPI CS Labs | "Porsche: Fahren in weltyc@cs.rpi.edu ...!njin!nyser!weltyc | seiner schoensten Form"