Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!purdue!decwrl!shlump.dec.com!riscy.dec.com!ticker.dec.com!larry From: larry@ticker.dec.com (Lawrence J. Timmins) Newsgroups: comp.windows.x Subject: Re: DECwindows and X11R3 Message-ID: <1389@riscy.dec.com> Date: 18 Jul 89 20:31:42 GMT References: <8907112335.AA05254@sunaus.sun.oz> Sender: news@riscy.dec.com Organization: DEC Solutions Integration Center Lines: 44 You can get the upgrade to Ultrix Workstation Software 2.1 (Ultrix 3.1) for your VAXstation (that goes for anyone with Ultrix DECstations as well). Please ask your Digital sales rep for information on getting the upgrade tape. It took less than forty minutes for the entire update on my DECstation 3100, including a reboot. This should take care of any Xlib warning/notifier messages that you get. The new release is completely built on X11R3 Xlib, Server, and Intrinsics. Due to the extensive quality control, etc. that goes on in DECwindows Engineering, timing of what MIT provides in "as is" condition and what Digital offers as its product differ. I believe Ultrix Workstation Software 2.0 (Ultrix 3.0) was released with X11R3 Xt Intrinsics, but X11R2 servers and libraries. This only affected some R3 Xlib programs. Those applications that were toolkit-based shouldn't have had any problem. As Xlib across the X11 releases is more or less consistent, that is why your programs still runs. Most developers use the User Interface Language and Compiler for application development (for initial user interface, all "states" of the user interface, and dynamic configuration of the user interface during runtime using the Fetch mechanism in DRM. UIL will also offered in Motif and DRM will be renamed to MRM or something similiar). I believe the intent was to provide the X User Interface (XUI) toolkit (the development environment/libraries that is a part of DECwindows and which Motif is primarily based on) on X11R3 as soon as possible, given Digital's Ultrix Engineering's schedule for product releases. I think that you will find UWS 2.1 (Ultrix 3.1) an excellent product and with greatly enhanced performance. All the X11R3 libraries (such as Xmu.h and Xmh.a) are also included to my knowledge. Early reports show that the messages you mentioned should go away. ***** ***** These comments are my *own* opinion and provided for clarification to the best of ***** my understanding. These statements do not necessarily express the direct opinion ***** of my employer, Digital Equipment Corporation. ***** Larry Timmins, Sr Trading System Architect Financial Resource Center/New York Software Services 2 Penn Plaza, 6th Floor, NY NY 10121 "DECwindows -- Home of the best quality/engineered implemenation of X11 available" ljt