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From: sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: EUNet, unido and USENET
Summary: Euromail
Keywords: still LONG
Message-ID: <882@corpane.UUCP>
Date: 7 Jul 89 15:25:36 GMT
References: <588@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk>
Reply-To: sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks)
Organization: Corpane Industries, Inc.
Lines: 51

In article <588@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk> idc@cs.hw.ac.uk (Ian Crorie) writes:
>
>4. "What would be wrong with a U.S. site offering a European one a
>    trailblazer feed bypassing EUNet?"
>
>    (i)  For News?   I don't see anything wrong with that (IHMO)
>         as long as they are registered with EUNet for mail.
>         Are there really many sites that want news but not email?
>
>    (ii) For Mail?   Really messy.   My national backbone site
>         ukc.ac.uk registers me as zzz in the world maps?   They
>         wouldn't route mail if it cost them money and I refused to
>         pay.   Why should they?
>

You know this doesn't make much sense to me.  unido says that they won't pass
mail to someone who is getting their newsfeed from the USA. 

WHY  NOT????

If site A is connected to ddsw1, then all US mail will go to ddsw1, unido is
not even involved in this case. 

If site A wants to mail to someone connected to unido, then the person on unido
who is the recipient will have to pay the delivery charge. This is the same as
if someone in the USA sent mail to someone on unido. Why does unido want to
blacklist them in this case?

If someone on unido wants to mail to site A, then the person sending the mail
will have to pay the normal charges to unido just as if he wanted to  send
mail over to the USA. Why does unido have a problem with this?????

In other words, the traffic inside unido still gets paid for, and the traffic
outside unido is none of unido's business. They just have to disable passing
mail from outside unido to other sites outside unido. but since the sites that
are outside unido already have another path for such mail, then there is no
problem with this.

Unido doesn't stop me or charge me to send to one of their customers, so why
should they be concerned if someone next door to them geographically does the
same thing? 

Why does unido insist on blocking *ALL* mail to/from such a site? Just block
mail from outside unido to another place outside unido. that's what AT&T did
here. You can still send to and from AT&T, but not pass thru it.

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