Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!iuvax!bsu-cs!dhesi From: dhesi@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Rahul Dhesi) Newsgroups: news.admin Subject: Re: EUnet, unido and USENET Keywords: unido, blacklisting, domain .de, subnet, Message-ID: <8229@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> Date: 16 Jul 89 03:33:58 GMT References: <588@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk> <882@corpane.UUCP> <8594@attctc.DALLAS.TX.US> <1477@laura.UUCP> Reply-To: dhesi@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Rahul Dhesi) Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana Lines: 37 In article <1477@laura.UUCP> ag@laura.UUCP (Anke Goos) writes: >What we *are* doing though is asking the EUnet participants >not to further redistribute the international newsgroup we get >via mcvax without letting participate the third-party in the >costs all EUnet members have to carry for the international >News. >This is in the intention of "The more participate, the >cheaper it will be for the individual site". By imposing conditions on others you are probably making it harder for more sites to share the costs. What you should be doing is charging enough to cover your costs, and allowing your news subscribers to freely redistribute news. This will mean that (a) you will have to charge more, because you will get income only from those who directly get news from you, but (b) your direct subscribers will be able to actively solicit new sites to share *their* costs. This will allow other sites to get a newsfeed from you and then act as backbone sites and feed many other intermediate or leaf nodes. Such a hierarchical structure minimizes costs. Your current policy does not encourage its formation. Right now, when a site finds another and feeds news to it, its costs do not get halved. Instead they will decrease by a very small fraction (and probably not immediately). So there is very little incentive for people to feed news to others. You will get new sites but very slowly. You are taking the position that there is a difference between the US and Europe and you are constrained by that difference. In fact there is a difference between the US and Europe and you are *part* of that difference. -- Rahul Dhesi UUCP: ...!{iuvax,pur-ee}!bsu-cs!dhesi