Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!bloom-beacon!husc6!ogccse!cvedc!nosun!qiclab!sopwith!snoopy From: snoopy@sopwith.UUCP (Snoopy) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: Touching a "hot" connector Keywords: touch, sensation, live, shock Message-ID: <248@sopwith.UUCP> Date: 15 Jul 89 22:41:50 GMT References: <89Jun8.160452edt.10877@ephemeral.ai.toronto.edu> <814@corpane.UUCP> <427@edai.ed.ac.uk> <322@cbnewsi.ATT.COM> Reply-To: snoopy@sopwith.UUCP (Snoopy) Organization: The Daisy Hill Puppy Farm Lines: 48 In article <322@cbnewsi.ATT.COM> fiesta@cbnewsi.ATT.COM (eric.c.beck) writes: |> Not recommended unless you don't mind the occasional jolt from the |> mains, which probably means your skin ought to be on the dry side. I'm |> talking about 250V mains, by the way. 120 is less lethal. | |From what little I've been taught about electrical shocks and resuscitation |I seem to remember that 120 was actually "more lethal" than 240 ... something |to do with fibrillation (from a 120 shock) versus complete stoppage of the |heart with a 240 volt shock. (It is harder to resuscitate an individual |in fibrillation(?)). From _Electronic Components and Measurements_ by Bruce D. Wedlock and James K. Roberge, based on an article entitled "The Fatal Current," originally published by Fluid Controls Corporation: "...currents between 100 and 200mA are lethal. In this current range, ventricular fibrillation of the heart occurs. Above 200mA, the resulting muscular contractions are so severe that the heart is forcibly clamped during the shock, and ventricular fibrillation is prevented. Thus, although severe burns, unconsciousness, and stoppage of breathing occur, the shock is not usually fatal if the victim is given immediate resuscitation or artificial respiration. [...] The actual body resistance varies depending on the points of contact and the condition of the skin. The total resistance may be as low as 1kOhm for wet skin and as high as 500kOhm for dry skin. Death by electrocution as been recorded from a voltage as low as 42 volts DC, implying a resistance as low as 400 Ohms." There is a chart showing "threshold of sensation" at about 0.002A, "painful" at about 0.01A, "cannot let go" at about 0.02A, "extreme breathing difficulties" at about 0.08A, "death" from 0.1A to 0.2A, "breathing stops" at about 0.3A, and "severe burns" at about 0.4A. "*action in case of shock* [...] The resistance of the victim's contact decreases with time so that the fatal 100- to 200-mA current may be reached if action is delayed. If the victim is unconscious and has stopped breathing, start artificial respiration *at once. Do not stop resuscitation until a medical authority has pronounced the victim beyond help.* It may take as long as eight hours [ !!! ] to revive the patient." Is it time for a frequently-asked-questions list for this group? _____ .-----. /_____\ Snoopy ./ RIP \. /_______\ qiclab!sopwith!snoopy | | |___| parsely!sopwith!snoopy | tekecs | |___| sun!nosun!illian!sopwith!snoopy |_________|