Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!cbnews!military From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (richard welty) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: I. F. Stone and Korea Message-ID: <8079@cbnews.ATT.COM> Date: 8 Jul 89 04:34:50 GMT References: <7780@cbnews.ATT.COM> Sender: military@cbnews.ATT.COM Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies Lines: 44 Approved: military@att.att.com From: welty@lewis.crd.ge.com (richard welty) In article <7780@cbnews.ATT.COM>, Chesley Reyburn writes: *In article <7594@cbnews.ATT.COM> somebody wrote: *>In the Korean war, during the first assault by the North Koreans, both *>captured US soldiers and South Korean citizens was massacred on several *>occations. This seems now to have been a knowingly preformed deed, planned *I.F. Stone alleged that Dugout Doug was responsible for these deaths. *[mod.note: I'll probably regret posting this... anyway, let's keep *the flames in email. 8-) - Bill ] no flames here ... I. F. Stone (_The Hidden History of the Korean War_, currently back in print) needs to be read carefully. the book in question was written entirely from journalistic sources, published before the armistice was signed, and was never revised afterwards. it is a fascinating thing to read, but should only be used in conjunction with other sources. i don't recall that Stone alleged that MacArthur killed, or ordered the deaths of, any soldiers at all. please tell me where Stone said this. Stone did allege that atrocity figures were grossly inflated (by roughly an order of magnitude) during the armistice negotiations, and he was probably correct about that. The important thing about Stone is that he asked a number of very good questions, some of which have *never* recieved satisfactory answers. there were a number of documented cases of murder of US and South Korean prisoners during the initial assault. the total number of such deaths was probably in the low-to-mid 3 figures. i am currently preparing a review/essay of several histories of Korea, and a new biography of MacArthur. when i'm done, i'll send it to Bill for this group. richard -- richard welty welty@lewis.crd.ge.com 518-387-6346, GE R&D, K1-5C39, Niskayuna, New York Officer: Do you know how fast you were going? Driver: No. The speedometer only goes up to 85