Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!agate!ucbvax!ucsfcgl!cca.ucsf.edu!daedalus!brianc From: brianc@daedalus (Brian Colfer) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: [David E Demers: Re: free will] Summary: epistomology and free will Message-ID: <2230@ucsfcca.ucsf.edu> Date: 22 Jul 89 19:56:02 GMT References: <334@ucl-cs.UUCP> <425@berlioz.nsc.com> <1842@harrier.ukc.ac.uk> Sender: news@cca.ucsf.edu Reply-To: brianc@daedalus.ucsf.edu (Brian Colfer) Organization: UCSF Dept. of Lab Med Lines: 38 In article <1842@harrier.ukc.ac.uk> rjf@ukc.ac.uk (Robin Faichney) writes: >In article <425@berlioz.nsc.com> andrew@berlioz (Lord Snooty @ The Giant Poisoned Electric Head ) writes: >>[..] >>I coincidentally just caught a line from the group "Yes" (I think) which >>goes: "Then I will choose free will". >> >>While I am not suggesting that pop contains any deep truisms (or not), when >>I heard this I wondered .. > >In my humble opinion, some Yes lyrics can be quite profound. ... > It is an Occams Razor to cut a Gordian Knot. ... >Just because something cannot be proven, is no reason not to believe in it. Why believe something if you cannot prove it? How can I prove that there is no free will? ... it is logically impossible. For example, if I want to prove that there cannot ever be a black swan I must examine every swan which has ever existed or ever will exist... impossible. Some one else on USENET said that free will is "intending to intend". Sounds kind of like the Yes lyric... but this just begs the question of what is intention... or will. > >I say, if you want to preserve your Knots, don't listen to Yes (or me :-) > Put them on ice or BHT might work. ============================================================================= Brian | UC San Francisco | E-mail: USENET, Internet, BITNET Colfer | Dept. of Lab. Medicine |...!{ucbvax,uunet}!daedalus.ucsf.edu!brianc | S.F. CA, 94143-0134 USA | brianc@daedalus.ucsf.edu | PH. (415) 476-2325 | BRIANC@UCSFCCA.BITNET ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Leave your body and soul at the door ..." -- Oingo Boingo =============================================================================