Xref: utzoo comp.databases:3096 comp.lang.c++:4148 comp.lang.smalltalk:1219 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ames!lll-winken!brutus.cs.uiuc.edu!wuarchive!wugate!uunet!mcvax!ukc!newcastle.ac.uk!news From: aidan@shire.newcastle.ac.uk (Aidan Saunders) Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.smalltalk Subject: OODBs summary of replies Keywords: database,object Message-ID: <1989Jul26.081130.4455@newcastle.ac.uk> Date: 26 Jul 89 08:11:30 GMT Sender: news@newcastle.ac.uk Organization: Computing Laboratory, University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU Lines: 43 A few weeks back I asked on behalf of a colleague for info about Object-Oriented Databases (preferably freebie !) Many thanks to all those who replied. Here is the summary of responses. ----------- The consensus of opinion with regard to OODB's was that freebies were v. unlikely to be available. Many persons described the subject of OODB's as "young enough that no industrially useable high quality system exist" and that the available dB's were "various prototypes in different states of maturation". However, some interesting products were suggested. On the cheap side of things Intermedia ($150 on Mac.) and Observer(~$80 from Brown University) were detailed. Has anyone used these systems? Commercial databases quoted included:- G-BASE (GRAPHAEL), Gem-Store(ONTOLOGIC), Static(Symbolics), VBase (SERVIO LOGIC) and Generis (DSL). dB's from recent research topics detailed included:- AVANCE(Stockholm Uni.), GARDEN(Brown Uni.), JASMINE(Fujitsu/AIST /MITI), LOB(Compiegne Uni.), OBJFADS/POSTGRES(Berkekey) and ORION (MCC). Other suggestions involved writing a dB from scratch using an OO language (Smalltalk,C++ etc.) or else using a toolkit like KEE or ART. A number of conclusions are thus drawn. The requirement, just to remind us, is to use an ooedb as a tool for implementing a conceptual schema etc... The choice is clear. Either write it myself or else convince others that it is worth investing of the order of $xK ; where x is an integer, to buy an existing system that is not exceptionally established. Any comments/suggestions. Brian King ----------- aidan a.c.g.saunders@newcastle.ac.uk