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From: rick@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Rick Spanbauer)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: trace route to OZ
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Date: 25 Jul 89 00:09:31 GMT
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In article <89Jul24.083917edt.57352@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca>, WHITESID@McMaster.CA (Fred Whiteside) writes:
> >  Milo,
> >
> >  I don't regard the discussion of interesting routing phenomena between
> >  the furtherst outflings of the Internet as operational issues at all;
> >  in fact, some of the oddities being discovered may have very real
> >  impact on the understanding and solving of basic problems for users
> >  and operators of campus, regional and backbone networks. Your comments
> >  are out of place and leave the misleading impression that if our users
> >  simply call their network gurus everything will get well.
> >
> >  Dave

	Just want to file my $0.02 on this subject.  I've found the
	recent routing discussions that have taken place here to be
	both informative and useful.  Useful at least in so far as
	I might not have been motivated to install traceroute and
	use it to investigate problems with our regional network,
	Nysernet :-)  I don't think it does anyone a favour to insist
	that the Internet be thought of in the same inviolate black
	box model the telephone companies like us to think of their system
	as.  Let's continue the free flow of information and tools - our
	regional networks and Internet in general can only stand to
	gain by the exposure!

					Rick Spanbauer
					SUNY/Stony Brook