Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!proteon.com!jas From: jas@proteon.com ("John A. Shriver") Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc Subject: Here's the Rub (with bridging FDDI or 802.5 to Ethernet) Message-ID: <8907201450.AA11993@monk.proteon.com> Date: 20 Jul 89 14:50:40 GMT References: <1679@brwa.inmos.co.uk> Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet Lines: 24 The ARP problem is not that simple. There is only one ARP hardware type for 802.2, corresponding to all encapsulations noted in RFC 1042. There is nothing in the ARP packet that says whether the MAC Address is 802.3 or 802.5. Again, Roger Pfister's "49th bit". Moreover, even if you fix the MAC address as protocol data problem in ARP, just what are you going to do about Novell NetWare IPX, and all the other protocols people have written that are placing 802.5-order MAC addresses as data in higher layer protocols? It's too late. The existing 802.5 implementations just are not normalizing MAC addresses to 802.3 bit order in the MAC/Data-Link interface. Indeed, the peice of paper you get from IEEE assigning you a MAC address distinctly gives you the numeric value for your address block in the two different bit orders. To fix 802.5 would take the biggest flag day the networking world has ever seen, since it would be a flag day for almost every protocol running over 802.5. By comparison, the Arpanet's NCP->TCP flag day was trivial. Maybe, just maybe, FDDI will get saved. However, it would probably require revising the MAC part, which is already approved. (Eg. not politically popular.)