Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!cwjcc!gatech!dcatla!mclek From: mclek@dcatla.UUCP (Larry E. Kollar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: No more Cinemaware stuff for Amiga !!!???? Message-ID: <21429@dcatla.UUCP> Date: 25 Jul 89 18:24:04 GMT References: <268@nrcvax.NRC.COM> <30140@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> <4929@alvin.mcnc.org> <1989Jul24.163632.23920@ddsw1.MCS.COM> Reply-To: mclek@sunb.UUCP (Larry E. Kollar) Organization: DCA Inc., Alpharetta, GA Lines: 59 Does Cinemaware make anything other than games? Just wondering. In article <1989Jul24.163632.23920@ddsw1.MCS.COM> karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes: > >[ bad experience at an SF convention ] > >After seeing this I decided then and there that my company would never produce >an Amiga product. I've never seen something like this in the MSDOS or Unix >world. [...] > >We'll stay with Unix products, even though we could write some really killer >packages for the Amy. Speaking as one who has *never* pirated Amiga software, your decision is a loss to all of us. I won't say that piracy isn't a problem on the Amiga, but I would go so far as to say that what you saw was extreme and rare -- you caught the very worst of it the first time. I've seen similar things in the Mac world -- including a '68 Mustang with a trunk full of pirated Mac software -- and I'll bet you could find something on a similar scale in the MS-DOS world if you looked around. I remember reading something about a pirate board in New York City that had the *source code* to Lotus 1-2-3 as well as a "cracked" binary! Such extreme piracy probably does not exist in the Unix world -- although as Unix gets more popular & lands on more desktops, it will happen. It's just a matter of time. >Wise up people. If you pirate enough the people who make the products you >are _stealing_ will stop producing software, you'll have nothing to use, and >the hardware companies will go out of business too (since without software a >computer is useless!) I have no kind words for pirates. But there's a LOT of shlock on the market that doesn't get supported by the producers. People like that are going to get pirated out the wazoo, because there's no advantage to *buying* their product. I'm talking about support here -- a sympathetic voice on the line, or a prompt written response: "yes, that's a bug; here's a workaround until we get the next version out." Example? Delta Research produces JForth, a really nice implementation of Forth for the Amiga. I was having a problem with JForth 1.2, which I dis- covered after 2.0 was available (for $50 upgrade). Instead of just saying "buy the new version," Phil Burk (the owner) dug into the code, found the bug, provided a workaround, THEN said "buy the new version; it doesn't have this problem." I did. Gold Disk *must* be doing well; they've just released several new Amiga products. Of course, pirates really have no need for productivity software. Pirates may copy it, but I doubt they actually use it. If you follow through on your motto -- "quality solutions at a fair price" -- and you have the right product, AND you SUPPORT it, you'll make money in the Amiga market. You'll have some piracy, but the people who have a real need for your product *will* buy it (supporting only registered owners is a widely-accepted practice :-). -- Larry Kollar ...!gatech!dcatla!mclek : life BEGIN funds @ enough_to_retire < WHILE work REPEAT ;