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From: kts@quintro.uucp (Kenneth T. Smelcer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: More
Message-ID: <1989Jul20.145401.23083@quintro.uucp>
Date: 20 Jul 89 14:54:01 GMT
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Reply-To: kts@quintro.UUCP (Kenneth T. Smelcer)
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In article <8907191307.AA03786@umix.cc.umich.edu> GBOPOLY1@NUSVM.BITNET (fclim) writes:
>In article <8441@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> braner@tcgould.tn.
> cornell.edu  (Moshe Braner)
>
>> The Apollo "more" tool chooses it's own font, and takes a lot
>> of time to start up.  Quite annoying when, e.g., reading mail
>> letter by letter (with PAGER=more).  Is there an alternative?
>> Has somebody written a simple "more" that does not do cursor
>> addressing (and thus escapes the vt100 emulator)?
>
>[digress]
>Darryl Conliffe and I were corresponding over this newgroup about
>a couple of weeks ago.  Darryl started off by saying that most
>non-Aegis users invoke "more" or "cat" whenever they want to
>browse a file.
>[egress]
>
[ description of cv with the m3 button ]
>
>You can't setenv PAGE to cv because it's not a shell command.
>A workaround is to write a shell script:
>    % cat > cv << BLAAAH
>    #!/bin/sh
>    /com/xdmc cv $1
>    BLAAAH
>    % mv cv /bin      # or your favorite binaries dir.
>    % rehash
>    % setenv PAGER cv
>
>fclim          --- gbopoly1 % nusvm.bitnet @ cunyvm.cuny.edu

I don't think this will work because mail sends the text to more via
stdin, not by filename.  You could get this to work by creating a temp
file and using DM with it, but that seems silly.  Is there a way to
get a pad to take data from stdin instead of a file?  

BTW, if you want a pager that lets you move around in the file, there 
is a program in the comp.sources.unix archives called 'less' that works
similarly to more, but gives you full cursor movement (ala vi) and has 
quite a few nice features.

In response to the original problem, the small font size isn't due to
invoking the vt100, but because it isn't!  When you invoke 'more' with
a filename, it start the emulator and everything works fine.  When 'more'
reads from stdin, it doesn't start a vt100 window; it switches to a
tiny font and displays to the output pad.  I assume this is because 
the 'curses' package sees that input is not from the terminal, so it 
doesn't start the emulator (is this how curses/vt100 works?).  I'm don't
have any ideas how to fix this (except by using a mailer like 'elm' :-)
Anybody else have a suggestion?

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