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From: jeff@quark.WV.TEK.COM (Jeff Beadles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Alternatives to STARTGEM wanted.
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Date: 26 Jul 89 20:28:11 GMT
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In article <1620@atari.UUCP> apratt@atari.UUCP (Allan Pratt) writes:
>kelly@nmtsun.nmt.edu (Sean Kelly) writes:
>>I really would like to be able to turnkey some programs that
>>insist on calling GEM.  I'd something like STARTGEM, but not
>>as buggy.  There's a rumor of a similar program in existence,
>>yet I can't locate it.

>Become a developer and get TOS 1.4.  You can use "Install Application"
>to make one (1) GEM-type application launch before you see the Desktop.
>(When it exits, you get the Desktop for the first time.)

[ Sigh, FLAME ON ]

Let's try something different here Allan, it's called "Reality".  Do you really
expect someone to become a developer JUST to get TOS 1.4?

What if I WAS a developer.  I write some nifty wizz-bang software that requires
to be run under 1.4.  That's fine and dandy, but you probably wouldn't be able
to sell a product until Atari gets off their duff and starts shipping TOS 1.4
to the people who are willing to *PAY* for it.  (No, not the developers kit AND
TOS 1.4, just 1.4.)

[ Flames lowering... ]

The St is a nice machine for it's nitch.  It's not the answer for all
questions.  However, a USABLE ST would be an interesting concept.  I've got an
auto-folder full of "patches" to work around bugs that Atari was nice enough to
put in my computer.  (Of course they didn't tell me about them before I bought
it :-)

	-Jeff
-- 
Of course my company doesn't approve of what I say.  If they did, they wouldn't
let me tell you.
Jeff Beadles		Utek Sustaining Engineering, Tektronix Inc.
jeff@quark.WV.TEK.COM