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From: desnoyer@apple.com (Peter Desnoyers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac
Subject: Re: MacTCP ?
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Date: 20 Jul 89 17:20:17 GMT
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In article <662@cbnewsk.ATT.COM> ech@cbnewsk.ATT.COM (ned.horvath) writes:
> In article <2553@amelia.nas.nasa.gov>, currier@prandtl.nas.nasa.gov 
(Jeffrey M. Currier) writes:
> > In the new version (2.3) of NCSA Telnet the talk about
> > MacTCP.  I have an ethernet board in my Mac II, but I don't have
> > MacTCP.  What are the advantages of MacTCP? How can I get it?
> > Is it free? or How much?
> 
> From article <1282@intercon.UUCP>, by kdb@intercon.uu.net (Kurt Baumann):
> > MacTCP can be gotten from APDA, I think that the cost is about $100.  
It
> > is a driver so that many applications may use it at the sametime...
> 
> Except that (1) NCSA Telnet needs to be rewritten (and large chunks scrapped
> outright) to exploit MacTCP;

This has already been done for you. NCSA Telnet 2.3 works with MacTCP.

> and (2) Apple charges the distributor of a
> program $2500 (one time, I think; or that may be annual; anybody on the net
> from Apple SW licensing?) for distribution.  Now if Apple could waive the
> fee for a PD program like this...

MacTCP is an init, separate from the program that uses it. It is not 
distributed with NCSA Telnet - you buy it separately. It costs $100
a pop or $1000 (I think??) for a site license. You don't pay merely
for distributing programs that work with MacTCP. (as I understand it)
The $2500 may be for distributing MacTCP with your product, so your
customers don't have to shell out an extra $100. I have no idea, really.

Note that the main advantage of MacTCP is that it lets you run 
multiple applications which use TCP, as well as letting you use TCP
from HyperCard XCMDs and your own programs. 

> 
> A more interesting question is what it might take to combine MacTCP with
> the new Comm Manager -- there's not much to Telnet proper -- so most of 
> the NCSA Telnet package is "in the libraries."  Hmm...

At first glance it seems easy - make a TCP tool and combine it with a
vt100 tool. But I have no idea how you would do the Telnet option
negotiation.

> 
> =Ned Horvath=

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