Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!usc!cs.utexas.edu!execu!sequoia!texbell!merch!cpe!hal6000!trsvax!uhclem From: uhclem@trsvax.UUCP Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix Subject: Re: 720k 5.25 disks Message-ID: <196500031@trsvax> Date: 21 Jul 89 14:20:00 GMT References: <26353@agate.BERKELEY.EDU> Lines: 42 Nf-ID: #R:agate.BERKELEY.EDU:26353:trsvax:196500031:000:2044 Nf-From: trsvax.UUCP!uhclem Jul 21 09:20:00 1989 <> R3>The IBM startup test does not bash heads against stops, at least on R3>the AT; it only recalibrates and steps to track 34. Hmm, well it does it on the true-blue ATs we have here with 40 track drives in them. (Since the high cap drives have more than 40, no problem.) Our friendly IBM rep explained it away as I described. I even recall that someone took a peek at the IBM BIOS listing to confirm that it wasn't just DOS doing this stunt. (We figured we might get Microsoft to change it if it was their doing.) I agree that pegging the drive isn't a good thing to do on a regular basis, but for a single experiment, there should not be any problem, unless you have got Tandon drives or something. Most half height drives made after 1985 "know" where they are and will disregard stepping pulses beyond their capacity. Check up on the guys using Radio Shack Model 4 systems and trying to get 43 tracks out of a 40 track drive and had to use older, dumber drives if you want to hear more about this. By the way, someone stated that you don't need high-cap media for 720K 5.25 operation. That is true. But you should use 96 TPI (80 track) DSDD media. There *really* is such a thing and it is different from high cap/density (96 TPI 80 trk DSHD) and normal 48 TPI 40 trk DSDD. Since 5.25 720K is a less common size, not everyone carries that type of disk. But Rad Shack does. R3>This BIOS trick will only work if the machine uses dual-speed 1.2M R3>drives. The more common case of single-speed drives and floppy R3>controllers with three different clock rates won't work with this R3>trick; the data will get written at the wrong clock rate. In his case, he was able to read cylinder 0 correctly, so the transfer rate was not the issue, and he already stated an AT environment which would have a dual speed adapter. "Thank you, Uh Clem." Frank Durda IV @ ...decvax!microsoft!trsvax!uhclem ...sys1!hal6000!trsvax!uhclem