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From: philip@coms.axis.fr (Philip Peake)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: UUCP map for u.fra.0 (from comp.mail.maps)
Message-ID: <1989Jul19.120102.19751@coms.axis.fr>
Date: 19 Jul 89 12:01:02 GMT
References: <7106@ki4pv.uucp> <1989Jul17.085440.9421@coms.axis.fr> <254@ecicrl.UUCP>
Organization: Axis Digital, Paris, France
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In article <254@ecicrl.UUCP>, clewis@ecicrl.UUCP (Chris Lewis) writes:
> 
> It's totally stupid to post articles like maps that are labeled with
> an explicit prohibition against their use.  You're asking that EVERY SITE IN
> THE WORLD send mail to postmaster@France.EU.net to politely ask
> permission to use the maps.  And I'm not gonna.

Wrong, wrong, wrong!

This is just an example of refusing to understand how things *SHOULD*
be done - all you Americans have got it wrong! :-)

                                                ^^ - Please note !
						This is for the benefit of
                                                those who have been saying that
                                                "you europeans have it all
                                                wrong" recently.

Not every site in the world uses these maps, nor do they need to.
In europe there are a handful of sites who use the maps.

I like your refusal to obey copyright notices - does your employer
know that you have such tendancies ?
I hope we can all look forward to your posting the entire sources of
System 5.3 soon - because this is only protected by copyright, and I
don't suppose that you agree with that either ?

Or could it be that you think yourself safe to refuse to obey copyright
laws in this case  - whereas you know darn well what AT&T would do to you
in the case of their copyrighted material ?

This stupid, childish 'and I'm not gonna !' (sound of stamping feet)
doesn't help anyone.

[Turn down the burner a bit ...]

Now, on to more constructive things.
As you probably are aware, the copyright notice was put there to prevent
abuse of the information contained in these map entries.
In the past, people have tried to use them as the basis of junk mailing
(paper mail) lists.

All map maintainers would be well advised to protect their 'clients'
from this abuse.

There is no problem with using the maps for the purpose for which they
were intended - no one will jump on you for that.

BUT - just try making a mailing list out of it ....

The next version of the maps should contain a modified copyright notice
giving explicit permission to use for e-mail routing.

Philip