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From: dave@ecrcvax.UUCP (Dave Morton)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: EUnet, unido and USENET
Keywords: unido, blacklisting, domain .de, subnet,
Message-ID: <749@ecrcvax.UUCP>
Date: 19 Jul 89 13:22:46 GMT
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>We supply redistribution, but the interest is low. Everybody has to pay
>for X.25 or telephone and always long distance calls.  So it seems
>to be the idea of those people: If I have to pay long distance I
>could rather poll unido itself ...
Correct - this is how it is. People in the USA dont seem to realise
that an X.25 call here in Germany costs the same regardless of
distance. Also note that shipping News using currently
approved modems (2400 baud) within Germany would work out much more
expensive that X.25, especially from unido to Munich (~600 km = long
distance call). I cant possibly imagine anyone being dumb enough to
ship > 60MB News per month across the pond without cost sharing
and regardless of modem or X.25. Across the pond = very long distance
call = big money !

>(See: I pay abt DM 300/month ($150.-) to unido and abt DM 3000 ($1500.-)
>to the Bundespost for the lines. So what is the discussion about?
>50.000.000 Bytes of News is a high Volume for X25 - and you pay the
>Volume, not the time...)
Also correct, and note this has been pointed out before, unido is not
the limiting factor by far. So why *are* we still discussing this issue ?