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From: wcs@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (Bill Stewart 201-949-0705 ho95c.att.com!wcs)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: UUCP map for u.fra.0 (from comp.mail.maps)
Message-ID: <2444@cbnewsh.ATT.COM>
Date: 20 Jul 89 15:42:40 GMT
References: <7106@ki4pv.uucp> <1989Jul17.085440.9421@coms.axis.fr> <254@ecicrl.UUCP> <1989Jul19.120102.19751@coms.axis.fr>
Reply-To: wcs@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (Bill Stewart 201-949-0705 ho95c.att.com!wcs)
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In article <1989Jul19.120102.19751@coms.axis.fr> philip@coms.axis.fr (Philip Peake) writes:
]This is just an example of refusing to understand how things *SHOULD*
]be done - all you Americans have got it wrong! :-)
	A typical example of stubborn French conceit :-)
	We should never have let DeGaulle run France.

]Not every site in the world uses these maps, nor do they need to.
]In europe there are a handful of sites who use the maps.
	First of all, a large number of sites in the US use
	pathalias  to generate email routing information, and the
	rest either forward their mail through a site that does or
	use Usenet Path: lines for replies (a disreputable practice!).
	Intelligent mailers make the maps useful for everyone.

]I like your refusal to obey copyright notices - does your employer
]know that you have such tendancies ?
]I hope we can all look forward to your posting the entire sources of
]System 5.3 soon - because this is only protected by copyright, and I
]don't suppose that you agree with that either ?

	First of all, the primary protection on AT&T UNIX software
	is not copyright, it's contract law - you can only get a
	copy if you sign a contract that says you won't give it to
	unauthorized people, and our crew of big nasty ugly lawyers
	will bust you for violating your contract if you do.

	The US government has recently signed the Berne copyright
	agreement, which says that we agree to protect copyright of
	other signers to the agreement, and apparently says that
	anything is copyrighted, even without explicit copyright
	notice, unless the author renounces copyright.

	The problem is that, in the past, the maps have not been
	copyrighted, and it never occurred to anyone that they would be
	- the network is a cooperative activity.  The primary
	readers of the maps have been software rather than humans,
	and it never occurred to most of us to make our software
	check for copyrights - who would publish a map and then say
	you can't use it for the purpose one uses maps for?

]The next version of the maps should contain a modified copyright notice
]giving explicit permission to use for e-mail routing.
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