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From: gdelong@cvman.prime.com (Gary Delong)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: EUnet, unido and USENET
Keywords: unido, blacklisting, domain .de, subnet,
Message-ID: <162@cvman.prime.com>
Date: 20 Jul 89 19:45:39 GMT
References: <588@odin.cs.hw.ac.uk> <882@corpane.UUCP> <8594@attctc.DALLAS.TX.US> <8276@bsu-cs.bsu.edu>
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In article <8276@bsu-cs.bsu.edu>, dhesi@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Rahul Dhesi) writes:
> In article <1989Jul18.121524.15171@coms.axis.fr> philip@coms.axis.fr (Philip
> Peake) writes:
> >PLEASE DON'T TELL US THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE MONEY TO OTHER PEOPLE.
> >Because giving away free news feeds is exactly that.
> >
> >They are free to get their own news feeds, and set up their own
> >networks - but we WILL NOT subsidise them.
> 
> Well, I re-read what I wrote, and I find that my suggestion was to
> recover full costs for providing newsfeeds from those that directly get
> news from unido.

Rahul, I think your still missing what your being told.  It's not your
system, it's their's.

They have the right to do exactly as they wish with their assests, just as
you have the right to chose how you use your assets.

To put it bluntly, I would not be so kind in my responses to you if you
tried to tell me how I should run the network/systems I administer.

Owners of systems do not need "your" permission to do anything that does
not affect a service you are paying them for.  And most would not welcome
your intrusions into things that are none of your business.

This entire discussion upsets me (maybe you couldn't tell 8-) ).  I keep
seeing those with nothing at stake trying to tell those who have put forth
the money and effort to accomplish something how they could have done it
so much better if only....   Well, I'll listen to your "if onlys" when your
investment in my network gives you some right to criticize, or when you
show me something "you" have built that works better.

Apologies to the rest of the net for the tone of this posting, but I
finally just had to say it.

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