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From: tanner@ki4pv.uucp (Dr. T. Andrews)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: UUCP map for u.fra.0 (from comp.mail.maps)
Summary: did I ask for "autorization"?  taxes, no!  (actually yes, but)
Message-ID: <7107@ki4pv.uucp>
Date: 21 Jul 89 02:40:50 GMT
References: <7106@ki4pv.uucp> <1989Jul17.085440.9421@coms.axis.fr>
Organization: CompuData Inc., DeLand
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In article <1989Jul17.085440.9421@coms.axis.fr>, philip@coms.axis.fr (Philip Peake) writes:
) In article <7106@ki4pv.uucp>, tanner@ki4pv.uucp (Dr. T. Andrews) writes:
) > No written "autorization" has been received allowing me to use the
) > maps for their intended purpose, however.
) Did you ask ?
Goodness, no, I didn't ask.  I can't very well get mail through to
france if I can't use the maps, can I?

) I don't suppose that you really think that somone is going to 'phone
) every site in the world to ask if they want permission do you ?
Yes, as a matter of fact, I do.  I further expect them to make a fair
attempt to speak English or Chinese when they do it!

Down to reality: there are over a hundred map files which go into
building a paths file.  The ones from France require that I get
permission for any use.  The rest of them do not.

Problem 0: Do you seriously think that each postmaster should write
to a hundred other postmasters for written permission to use the
posted maps?  (Categorical Imperative)  If not, what makes the French
maps special, that permission should be sought for them?  Why should
the same logic not apply to the maps from New Jersey?

Problem 1: What if people take you seriously?  Everyone writes to
france for "autorization".  France sinks under the sheer weight
of the mail, and the heirs and assigns go broke mailing back written
permissions.  Electronic permissions, of course, won't hold up.

Problem 2: If permission is not automatic, then why have the french
maps been sent to my systems?  If I may be denied permission to use
the data, then why should we pay to receive them in the first place?
Why not just leave the data in France, where they will be admired and
properly respected, and not subjected to the abuse heaped upon them
by ugly and cynical U.S. postmasters?
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