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From: udo@watzman.UUCP (Udo Klimaschewski)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: EUnet, unido and USENET
Message-ID: <1716@watzman.UUCP>
Date: 22 Jul 89 02:52:40 GMT
References: <1989Jul18.121524.15171@coms.axis.fr>
Organization: A+S Computerhaus GmbH - Dortmund, W-Germany
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Hello to all ...

From philip@coms.axis.fr (Philip Peake):
] You have the right to your opinion - but you being 4500 miles from
] Germany, and knowing NOTHING of the European context, I don't give
] much for your opinion.
This is for sure not a very good way to handle others opinions.
(But an easy way)
 
] One more time ...
Until even the last luser at the end of the last site accepts it?

] PLEASE DON'T TELL US THAT WE HAVE TO GIVE MONEY TO OTHER PEOPLE.
] Because giving away free news feeds is exactly that.
Maybe disabling your caps-lock will result in more convincing arguments ;-)

] They are free to get their own news feeds, and set up their own
] networks - but we WILL NOT subsidise them.
Yeah! That hits the spot! Exactly the way, EuNet handles arguments,
discussions and Network-philosophy.
But sorry, I dunno if you are one of the ,,representativs'' of EuNet,
people at unido and mcvax are much more open for discussions on that
toppic and sometimes they even get convinced by arguments.

] If you want to implement your ideas then go ahead, but you have absolutely
] no right whatsoever to impose your views on us.
So, set up your own one-man-network and be happy.
If everyone would have the same idea of the net, it would not exist for
sure. Well, take a look over there just behind uunet, the news and mail
are distributed in the way, we just suggest.
So, why does EuNet not cut off from uunet? Whole Usenet is is working
just the way, you want to forbid.
C'mon, we should work for the net, not against it. I have surely
understood all arguments, discussing them for more than a year.
Alot of things, as I take a look to unido, have changed, just because
of the need to have some sort of change. 
It is surely true, more people - less fees. But this is a theoretical
model, not prooved to enforce a growth of the net here in europe.
As an administrator of an Eunet-site, also an active sub-member, I
just want to help people, who simply haven't got the money, participating
on the net.
Surely, this will result in higher fees for me, but I think it's worth it.
If there is no way to work with EuNet *together*, it wont be a mistake
of us (sub).
I won't drop one single tear when I cut off from EuNet, but for sure
will have a better feeling when working on our own net, which works
exactly like usenet. Maybe, in a few months, even you will join us.
I hope to get an active member!

Regards
	Udo


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