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From: mike@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Michael I. Bushnell)
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Subject: Re: Changes to Alternative Newsgroup Hierarchies
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Date: 23 Jul 89 20:51:09 GMT
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In article <5202@ficc.uu.net> peter@ficc.uu.net (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>   operating system with freely redistributable source code.  The GNU
>> ! Project is led by Richard Stallman.  Note that use of these groups to
>> ! discuss topics considered contrary to GNU aims and political
>> ! philosophy are considered off-limits (e.g., porting of GNU code to
>> ! Apple machines, usefulness of intellectual property laws).

>OK, everyone who didn't like sci.skeptic... have at it. This is rather
>heavy-handed censorship. If Stallman wants a playpen, I think he should
>use the existing mechanisms: i.e., moderation or mailing lists.
>
>I realise that, strictly speaking, gnu.* is not part of UseNet. Still,
>this is not a good thing.

These were originally mailing lists run off prep.ai.mit.edu.  Since
the number of readers was getting rather high, the prep folks asked
the various people getting the mailing lists if they would work
together to create a PRIVATE distribution to save load on prep.  With
the great help of people at Ohio State, this was done, and
tut.cis.ohio-state.edu became a bi-directional gateway for gnu.*.  

Those of you who choose NOT to receive the gnu newsgroups have no more
claim to yell "censorship" than you do to complain about the way UNM
runs the unm.* newsgroups.  They are there for whoever wants to get
them.  Everyone who gets them tacitly has agreed to abide by the same
restrictions the mailing lists originally had.

If you don't like that, don't get the newsgroups.  That simple.

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