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From: pengo@tmpmbx.UUCP
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: UUCP map for u.fra.0 (from comp.mail.maps)
Message-ID: <195@prmmbx.UUCP>
Date: 23 Jul 89 17:53:10 GMT
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Hello,

since we are, by EUNET definitions, not a 'notable network', almost
nobody will be interested in how we, the Sub-Net, handle the map
problem currently under discussion.  Nevertheless, since I have to
experience my new keyboard a bit, I'll go ahead and put in my two
cents:

We too had the problem, that some people didn't like the idea that their
name and address could be published widely through the distribution of
our maps.  The first step was to remove all 'sensitive' information
like phone numbers and addresses from the posted maps completely.
This was kind of unsatisfying:  It was not possible anymore to look
into the maps if one was looking for a site in a particular local
area, which made the maps partially useless.  Our current solution is,
that we denote 'public' lines in our map files.  All other lines are
kept only at our map administrator's machine.  This is simply done by
using lower case field designators for private lines, and upper case
for public one's.  That is, if you don't want your phone number to
appear in the posted map, you simply write "#p <phone-no>" in your map
entry, and vice versa.

I think this is a _bit_ more flexible than just saying:  "Nobody is
entitled to use our maps", which basically is what EUNET does.  It is
not even possible for us, as a Sub-Net "backbone" site, to get a map
of DNET sites.  Why ?  Well, we could use the data for junk mailing.
Oh my goodness.

Oh, I forgot to mention how strongly I admire the last few statements
of prominent EUNET gurus.  It show how creative they are, and how well
they're able to adopt to new situations.  I do recognize that much of
the pioneers work in european networking has been done by the EUNET,
but I see no sense why they so strongly try to ignore the fact that
for example we do valuable work as well, and that we are willing to
coorporate.  I see absolutely no sense in the current confrontation
course.
								-Hans