Xref: utzoo news.admin:6390 news.groups:11114 gnu.misc.discuss:11 Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!uunet!ncis.tis.llnl.gov!mcb From: mcb@ncis.tis.llnl.gov (Michael C. Berch) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.groups,gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Changes to Alternative Newsgroup Hierarchies Summary: Appropriatness of "gnu.*" for private advocacy Message-ID: <323@ncis.tis.llnl.gov> Date: 26 Jul 89 22:00:12 GMT References: <7429@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> Organization: Postmodern Consulting, Pleasanton CA USA Lines: 50 [From Usenet document "Alternative Newsgroup Hierarchies":] > operating system with freely redistributable source code. The GNU > ! Project is led by Richard Stallman. Note that use of these groups to > ! discuss topics considered contrary to GNU aims and political > ! philosophy are considered off-limits (e.g., porting of GNU code to > ! Apple machines, usefulness of intellectual property laws). I question the appropriateness of the use of publicly-funded educational and government networks (both on the Internet mailing list side and the gnu.* Usenet side) for organized private political advocacy. To my point of view, this is no different than the Republican or Democratic party sponsoring *and controlling* a newsgroup or mailing list, or the use of newsgroups/mailing lists for private commercial purposes. There is nothing wrong with use of the publicly-funded networks for open discussion of any issue, including political and philosophical issues, but I believe that use of them as a private forum for political advocacy, where opposing viewpoints are suppressed, is contrary to the charter and purpose of those networks and should be considered a gross abuse of privilege. If the "off-limits" material mentioned above is actually suppressed in gnu.misc.discuss (i.e., the charter above is not mere posturing), I propose to make a policy inquiry as to whether the gnu groups may permissibly be carried on federal and other publicly-funded networks (such as the DDN/NSF Internet and regionals, and state educational networks) given the action and intentions of the groups' sponsor. (For those who may read this and wonder why I -- a known libertarian and freedom-of-expression activist -- seem to be taking a position against free expression on the net, it is because the government-funded networks occupy a special place in the community: they are funded by tax revenues and organizational user fees paid by organizations that are tax-funded. It is important that these networks, like the physical facilities of public institutions, not subsidize the private political, commercial, or religious advocacy of various private groups (such as FSF). It is no different than if, for example, the State of California decided to lend its printing presses for free to Operation Rescue to print up an anti-abortion pamphlet.) I would have no objection to FSF sponsoring newsgroups/mailing lists on publicly-funded networks that were merely open forums for the discussion of FSF software, goals, or philosophy. But by stating that contrary political viewpoints or taboo subjects will be "off-limits", FSF has crossed from sponsorship to private advocacy, and that is wrong. -- Michael C. Berch mcb@tis.llnl.gov / uunet!tis.llnl.gov!mcb