Xref: utzoo news.admin:6394 news.groups:11124 gnu.misc.discuss:21 Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!apple!vsi1!altos86!dtynan From: dtynan@altos86.Altos.COM (Dermot Tynan) Newsgroups: news.admin,news.groups,gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Changes to Alternative Newsgroup Hierarchies Summary: Give it a rest!!! Message-ID: <12348@altos86.Altos.COM> Date: 27 Jul 89 05:14:33 GMT References: <7429@medusa.cs.purdue.edu> <323@ncis.tis.llnl.gov> <8427@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss Organization: Altos Computer Systems, San Jose, CA Lines: 30 You know, this thread would be amusing if it weren't for the serious undertones. Take a look! This is article 100 of 100 on this subject! The main reason RMS doesn't want certain discussions in GNU.*, is because of the very, very low SNR (this article is no exception), and very very high bandwidth. If you follow gnu.*. you'd know that RMS also doesn't appreciate discussion of GCC for VMS either. This has nothing (read my lips -- NOTHING) to do with any perceived hatred for DEC (FSF just received money from OSF). The reason is, it has nothing to do with the main GNU effort. Try posting articles about MS-DOS in comp.arch, and see how far your cries of 'freedom of expression' get you! There are over 512 different newsgroups (at least here at Altos, anyway). Surely there are better places to discuss the GNU political manifesto, than gnu.gcc??? We've been through this discussion a thousand times, in a hundred different newsgroups. Nothing has changed. Want to guess how many mail messages Dr. Tanenbaum gets, from new users who want to know if Minix is in the public domain? With something as intricate as the GNU copyleft, the subject of whether or not code produced by GCC can be distributed for profit, should get the award for most discussed. Every time it comes up, someone at FSF patiently tries to dispell any misconceptions, and once again, gnu.gcc gets down to business, until the following week, when someone has at it again. Is it any wonder that RMS is opposed to political or non-technical discussion? Give it a rest!! - Der -- dtynan@altos86.Altos.COM (408) 946-6700 x4237 Dermot Tynan, Altos Computer Systems, San Jose, CA 95134 "Far and few, far and few, are the lands where the Jumblies live..."