Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!wugate!wupost!kuhub.cc.ukans.edu!anu-news!list From: CONSLT32@UNOMA1.BITNET (Tim Russell) Newsgroups: news.software.anu-news Subject: Re: Usability of SLP (was Re: News V5.9 availability?) Message-ID: <2791@zeus.unl.edu> Date: 22 Jul 89 17:08:52 GMT Sender: ANU-NEWS Discussion Reply-To: Tim Russell Lines: 46 Comments: Warning -- original Sender: tag was NEWSMGR@UNOMA1 In article <6116@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, Bob Sloane wri tes: > It would have been nice if you had mentioned this to me. I actually do try to > make the update procedures work, despite all the flak I have been taking. Did > you use the original source from kuhub? Several other people have managed to > use this procedure without problems. It is difficult to fix problems that > aren't reported. Bob, you're taking things too personally! You're not taking flak, SLP is. I don't think there's anyone here who could possibly have anything but the most extreme praise for all the hard work you've done: archiving the NEWS source, answering tons of questions, creating the newsgroup, gatewaying the list and the newsgroup (which is wonderful, I might add!), and working on patches. I've already told you in private mail, but I think it needs to be said here: without your work NEWS would be nowhere near what it is today, and for that we all thank you. > Exactly. I have been working on getting the mailing list/newsgroup gateway > going, counting votes for the newsgroup creation, recovering from a trashed > disk, and doing my regular work, too. I am getting a little tired of people > saying patch is god's gift to computers. IT DOESN'T EXIST ON VMS. IF YOU > WANT IT, YOU WILL HAVE TO PORT IT YOURSELF, BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE TIME. Is that > clear enough??? Crystal, sir! :-) Obviously I wasn't clear enough in my original post: > Also, as far as patches go, I think the easiest thing is to do what Unix >people do: keep track of the "patchlevel" of the software, and require >anyone who wants to be able to automatically apply patches to be up to >the current patchlevel. This will require that there be a patch archive >somewhere, hopefully Kuhub? I think I'm going to look at the sources to >"diff" and "patch" from Unix and see how hard they would be to port. >As it is now, EDIT/SUM will totally mangle your source file and not say >a word. At least patch will fail. Notice: "I think /I'm/ going to look..." I meant me. And sometime this week I'm going to try to get them both working, and then we'll see. I'm sorry for all the confusion and hurt feelings. -- ---------------------------------+-------------------------------------------- Tim Russell, Computer Operator | Internet: russell@zeus.unl.edu Campus Computing | Bitnet: russell@unoma1 University of Nebraska at Omaha | UUCP: uunet!zeus.unl.edu!russell ---------------------------------+--------------------------------------------