Newsgroups: news.software.b Path: utzoo!utstat!geoff From: geoff@utstat.uucp (Geoff Collyer) Subject: Re: C News missing Lines: header Message-ID: <1989Jul21.001122.4986@utstat.uucp> Organization: Statistics, U. of Toronto References: <1989Jul20.054808.8724@tarpit.uucp> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 89 00:11:22 GMT Vanilla C inews does not generate Lines: headers and in general produces a fairly minimal set of headers (I initiated getting rid of Posting-Version:, Relay-Version: and Date-Received: headers years ago). Lines: headers are a waste of bytes (a byte count is usually what's wanted and it can be obtained much more reliably via fstat(2) or "ls -l"), and are often wrong due to mangling of either the Lines: headers or the message bodies by intervening networks or mail or news software. (As long as there are B news sites, B news will insert them anyway as the articles propagate.) You may see Lines: headers in articles originating on C news sites because intervening B news sites have lovingly hand-crufted Lines: headers on articles passing through (thus breaking one of the maxims of good performance for network software: though shalt not look at thy bits). We have a slightly better fix in the works which will get the Lines: count right, if you uncomment the code to produce it. I favour deleting the code altogether, but there are some very vocal fans of Lines: nearby. -- Geoff Collyer utzoo!utstat!geoff, geoff@utstat.toronto.edu ``... skill such as yours is evidence of a misspent youth.'' - Herbert Spencer