Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bionet!apple!chuq From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: Bird diets Message-ID: <33457@apple.Apple.COM> Date: 25 Jul 89 17:11:00 GMT References: <6603@cloud9.Stratus.COM> <1556@garcon.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: Life is just a Fantasy novel played for keeps Lines: 59 >I'm a bit confused at this point as you are saying that seed is just as >nutritional as pellets. Both seeds and pellets have strengths and weaknesses. What works best depends on the time/interest of the owner and the peculiarities of the bird. The reality is that you can build a good, solid nutrional basis for a bird with either. With both, there should be fresh food supplements as well to help out. There are no panaceas and no single right way. A few weaknesses of pellets: o There isn't the long term, multi-generational track record for pellets that seed has. This is changing and pellets are starting to prove themselves. o Not all birds will eat them. Not all birds will eat them reliably. Imagine eating oatmeal three times a day for the rest of your life. This is why fresh supplements are important for pellet diets. Birds get bored, too. o Pellets are not as universally available. This is also changing now that people like Purina have figured out that birds are a major pet market. o Pellets are possibly more expensive than seeds. Maybe, maybe not, depending on how much seed spoilage you have. If your bird is a messy eater and you wade through the seed hulls to get to the cage every evening, you may actually find seed more expensive unless you re-use it by filtering the chaff.... A few weaknesses of seeds: o Nutritionally unstable. You don't always know whether what you get is fresh. It can go bad on you after you buy it. o Even if it is fresh, the bird might just ignore your carefully blended mix. You can force your kid to eat his lima beans. If you give your bird a nutritionally balanced mix of seed and it only eats the chili peppers, all you're doing is wasting a lot of seed. With pellet, if they're eating it, they're getting a balanced food. o It encourages moth infestations (Laurie and I ended up with *every* flour product in the house in plastic and they *still* got into the Bisquick after one batch of seed that was infested. Now it all lives outside and if it's questionable goes into the freezer). o seeds are not 100% used and create a mess. Pellets are 100% eaten, so you won't find seed hulls in every room in the house (I swear that my cockatoo gets out of the cage during the day and carries seeds into every room. Just to spite me. I keep buying more powerful vacuum cleaners. She keeps getting better at throwing more and more stuff on the carpet.) It's all a trade-off. Seed is more traditional, pellets are easier and less likely to go bad on you, but you may not get your bird to eat them. The important thing is to do what's best for your birds. Chuq Von Rospach =|= Editor,OtherRealms =|= Member SFWA/ASFA chuq@apple.com =|= CI$: 73317,635 =|= AppleLink: CHUQ [This is myself speaking. No company can control my thoughts.]