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From: mm@cloud9.Stratus.COM (Mike Mahler)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Bird diets
Message-ID: <6638@cloud9.Stratus.COM>
Date: 26 Jul 89 01:43:12 GMT
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In article <33456@apple.Apple.COM>, chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:

> This sounds an awful like "If God had intended birds to eat pellets, then
> She would have created pellet trees" -- high on emotional content, nil on
  ^^^   
    Speaking of religious issues.  8-}

    If G-d intended us to fly we'd have wings?  No.  But if we weren't
    intended to fly we wouldn't know so much about flight and we DIDN'T
    fly WELL until we did RESEARCH and discovered the mysteries of flight.

> If pellets are so bad, why do most zoos and other major avian...
  
    Now I never said that pellets are "so bad" now did I?  Please don't
    set me up OR put words in my mouth.  I could just as easily say that
    you are saying SEEDS ARE NO GOOD.  I don't do I?

> From my reading of the research I can get my hands on, the experts feel that
> pellets are now at the point where they are the way to go if you can get the
> birds eating them. What do you know that the experts don't? 
    
    X (old) -spurt (drip).  8-}  

     Like I said, if I am shown proof of pellets contents
     stabilizing and that pellets don't cause long term damage to
     birds digestive tracts I'll buy into it (you think I LIKE
     picking up seed hulls?).  The "experts" told us DC-10's were
     safe and Pinto's wouldn't explode.  

     I'm just making a point.  Experts as you call them do not know
     everything about parrots?  Or do they?  Who knows?  What's an
     avian expert?  Someone who's done research at a University or
     someone who has years of experience?  A combination of both?
 
> forumlations have changed radically in the last five years as avian research
> has hit the point where we finally understand (or start to) what makes them
> tick and don't just assume they're funny colored chickens.

    So you admit that up until now (and only just STARTING as you say)
    they were just "funny colored chickens".  Maybe I'm from the old
    school.  Maybe I'm religious about what I feed my birds but I'm not
    closed minded.  I do keep in touch with my vets and with TUfts Medical
    school on a regular basis and my information contradicts what I've been
    hearing here.  That's all.


    I'll bow out gracefully since I seem to be the brunt of alot of
    anxiety here. 

    Go in peace everyone!