Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!bloom-beacon!daemon From: travis@douglass.cs.columbia.edu (Travis Lee Winfrey) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: understanding from the outside Message-ID: <12870@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> Date: 18 Jul 89 21:44:04 GMT Sender: ambar@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU Reply-To: travis@douglass.cs.columbia.edu (Travis Lee Winfrey) Organization: Columbia University Lines: 31 Approved: ambar@bloom-beacon.mit.edu Well, so far the discussion in soc.feminism has been dominated by men. In light of that, I was wondering if anyone would like to comment on the following quotation, which was from the preface to a book on the nature of the Black community. The context was a defense of the author's (Carol Stack) methods of investigation. She quotes another work by Joyce Ladner. It has been argued that the relationship between the researcher and his subjects, by definition, resembles that of the oppressor and the oppressed, because it is the oppressor who defines the problem, the nature of the research and, to some extent, the quality of the interaction between him and his subjects. This inability to understand and research the fundamental problem -- neo-colonialism -- prevents most social researchers from being able accurately to observe and analyze black life and culture and the impact racism and oppression has had upon Blacks. -- Joyce Ladner, Tomorrow's Tomorrow, 1971, p. 6 found in All Our Kin, Carol B. Stack, 1974, Harper & Row: NY So, given the preponderance of white men in this forum, is it possible that actual communication here will never be more than rudimentary? after the endless, tedious discussions of Affirmative Action and, most recently, the raging flames in soc.women of how Alice Walker is really the anti-Christ, I tend to lose hope. after all, it seems that a large number of positions can be predetermined by simply noting whose ox gets gored. White men -- no different than anyone else -- will vigorously attack any perceived assaults on them. t Arpa: travis@cs.columbia.edu Usenet: rutgers!columbia!travis