Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!aero!rshapiro@bbn.com From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: The Power of Listening? Message-ID: <43171@bbn.COM> Date: 24 Jul 89 16:17:27 GMT References: <8907221627.AA27245@cognito.> Sender: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Reply-To: elroy!ames!BBN.COM!rshapiro (Richard Shapiro) Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA Lines: 84 Approved: nadel@aerospace.aero.org Status: R In article <8907221627.AA27245@cognito.> randolph@Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz) writes: These arguments against biological reductionism are getting a little boring and I was about to start a new thread: the medical objectification of women and "the gaze". And then along comes the topic of listening as "feminine power": >I posted, saying yes, and included the following quote from Foucault: > > . . . one has to have an inverted image of power in order to believe > that all these voices which have spoken so long in our > civilization--repeating the formidable injunction to tell what one > is and what one does, what one recollects and what one has > forgotten, what one is thinking and what one thinks he is not > thinking--are speaking to us of freedom. > -- Michael Foucault, *The History of Sexuality*, volume I. > >Which mutated in my mind, and gave rise to the following hypothesis: > > In our culture, listening, and demanding confession, are "feminine" > techniques of power. > The mutation seems very peculiar to me. Certainly the roles of confessor, analyst, doctor which Foucault has in mind here are classically masculine ones (and until recently, more or less exclusively performed by men). It's generally seen to be part of a larger 'objectification' of women -- turning women into objects of study and contemplation. The 'sex object' notion is just a specific instance of this more widespread practice. Foucault shows this tactic of power to be deployed in a gender-blind way against everyone, but others have recognized that it's particulary operative *against* women. The linkage you want to make seems to be: listening can be a tactic of power; listening is passive; passive = feminine; therefore listening is "feminine power". I think this is quite a weak case. The kind of listening Foucault describes is definitely *not* passive. There's a confusion here between, on the one hand, negative power vs positive power, and on the other, active power vs passive power (whatever that might mean). Negative power is the power that represses, power in the more ordinary sense. Positive power is the power that constructs. It's not correct to regard the repressive power as active/masculine and the productive power as passive/feminine. Both are active; both are conventionally masculine; both are in fact practiced by men, more often than not. The original title of Foucault's book translates as _The Will to Knowledge_, and it's this (active) *will* which characterizes this listening. Foucault himself doesn't consider gender one way or the other, but others (see below) have seen this as an example of women as objects of male knowledge/power. The best extended examination of these issues from a feminist perspective has been in film studies, with "looking" replacing "listening" -- the gaze, as it's usually called in that context. The construction of women in classic Hollywood movies as objects of the gaze is by now fairly well known: the special lighting, the clothing, the particular use of point-of-view shots. Female characters in classic movies are denied full subjectivity; they are objects of the gaze of viewers who are thereby constructed as implicitly male. This argument was made by Laura Mulvey in a very famous article "Visual Pleasure and Narrative Cinema" -- you can hardly read an article or book of feminist film theory without running into references to this. Often this same process works just as much at the more literal level of the storyline. Mary Ann Doane's excellent book _The Desire to Desire_ examines the figure of the "sick" woman, observed and coerced back into legitimate femininity by the (male) doctor ("sickness" here often means little more than unattractiveness). The doctor watches, examines, listens -- he gains knowledge of the woman and thus exerts over her the productive power which feminizes her, constructs her as a properly gendered subject. There are lots of important issues in this context: the gendering of spectators, the possibility of "reading against the grain", the marketing of films towards men or women, the possibility (or not) of identification with characters of a different sex, etc etc. The focus on slightly older movies is important here. They represent a situation which is very close to our own, but just distant enough that the unstated assumptions have begun to become visible. This can be of enormous help in seeing our own unstated assumptions. You can watch these movies and giggle or hiss at the blatant sexism; you can also consider that they were not at all regarded as ridiculous or offensive at the time, and go from that to an examination of our own movies, our own culture, where you may very well find the same tactics in use, only less blatantly so.