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From: ead@tmsoft.uucp (Elizabeth Doucette)
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: Canada: one, two (or many) cultures?
Message-ID: <1989Jul29.172730.27727@tmsoft.uucp>
Date: 29 Jul 89 17:27:30 GMT
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In article <89Jul28.133422edt.10420@neat.cs.toronto.edu>
tjhorton@ai.toronto.edu ("Timothy J. Horton") writes: 
 
>ead@tmsoft.UUCP (Elizabeth Doucette) writes:

>>And Quebec is now being a cry-baby claiming they want more.  ...
>>They don't appreciate what they have already.  ...

>Are most provinces not exactly like this?

Many provinces complain about different things.  However, because
Ontario and Quebec have the majority of the M.P.'s, and the election
cannot be won without them, their complaining is listened to a lot
more.  My complaint regarding Quebec, in this specific conversation
topic, is that they have received a lot.  As an example, they have
received the contract to build the airplanes, that the West wanted.

Re the trains, services will be severely cut or elimated in the east
and the west.  It has been completely removed from Newfoundland and
P.E.I.  However, the lines will be upgraded between Toronto, Montreal
and Ottawa.  Is this fair?  Roads are subsidized, therefore, cars,
buses, transporting goods, etc. are being subsidized.  What's wrong
with subsidizing trains?  Trains are less harmful to the environment.
I believe that the East and the West have a more legitimate complaint. 
 
>>Other parties supported Meech Lake ... because they know they could never win
>>an election without Quebec's support.

>So you want to trade Quebec for the Eastern seaboard.  Great.

>>Give each province equal voting power and this nonsense would quickly
>>straighten out.  I am so sick of this.

>I think Elizabeth's ideas of "power" and "representation" are very strange.
>Her solution is a bigger problem than she seeks to resolve.  It's more of
>what she hates.

Timothy has emailed me about this a couple of times.  It is
interesting that people are satisfied with an unsatisfactory, unfair,
resentment causing status quo, to such an extent that they can't come
up with an alternate solution.  I am expressing an opinion.  The last
time I looked, we were still allowed to do this.  People usually
complain about someone else, but seldom offer an alternative.

I didn't say that equal representation from each province was the only
way but it is one way, it is a suggestion.  I don't sit around and
just belly-ache.  Another suggestion, is to have equal representation
from the West, Central and East.  Others are suggesting a triple E
Senate, an elected Senate.  I have doubts about how effective the triple E
Senate would be.  If laws could not be passed without the agreement of
Parliament AND the Senate, that would certainly be an improvement, IF
the Senate were elected by the people.

OK Timothy, now you come up with a suggestion!  The status quo is not
acceptable, so what do you suggest?  What does anybody suggest?
  
Elizabeth