Path: utzoo!lsuc!nrcaer!cognos!rayt From: rayt@cognos.UUCP (R.) Newsgroups: can.general Subject: Re: What does it mean to be a Canadian? Message-ID: <6713@cognos.UUCP> Date: 2 Aug 89 00:13:15 GMT References: <615662921.9256@myrias.uucp> <568@UALTAVM.BITNET> <609@philmtl.philips.ca> <1458@apss.apss.ab.ca> <1989Jul27.235845.24886@tmsoft.uucp> <1034@jtsv16.UUCP> Reply-To: rayt@cognos.UUCP (R.) Distribution: can Organization: Cognos Inc., Ottawa, Canada Lines: 52 In article <1034@jtsv16.UUCP> Brian A. Jarvis writes regarding Elizabeth Doucette's challenge: >As for going to the U.S. to buy, damn right I will. And it has *NOTHING* >to do with a [un]willingness to support Canadian industry; if we can't >compete, then pack up your bags and find an industry where we *can* compete. >I have no sympathy for textile industries or grape farmers; if we can't >do it well enough to keep our markets within the U.S. and Canada, then we >shouldn't be doing it. There are a couple of problems with this view as I perceive it. First, one must recognize the effect of scale: the American's with a ten-fold population advantage can reap a larger benefit from large-scale production, and while it might be contended that that market would also be available to any would-be Canadian producer, American's DO have (or are very seriously acquiring) a buy-American attitude as a response to the Asian economic strategy. Second, and this relates directly to the `free-trade' agreement, Americans have an interesting view with regards to subsidies: that they are primarily a Canadian phenomenon; US government contracts etc. being `something' else. Both of these imply that the market is NOT free, that there is a considerable American bias, and thus that Canadians, should they fall prey to such idealistic illusions as you advocate, will find themselves without primary industry. Another problem is that, even under complete laissez-faire market conditions, buying foreign products to save a few cents is undermining your local economy as the balance of payments becomes skewed. This may be fine under a system wherein the labour force can migrate without constraint, but national boundaries curtail this equalization enormously. Thus, once again, concerns beyond a pure, hypothetical, market economy must predominate. Lastly, there is the issue of `community'. To buy foreign product in disregard of local manufacturers, is to have no regard for the effects which, even should they be absorbed within the national boundaries, are detrimental to one's own living environment (a sort of political ecology). Clearly, there must be cooperation. Should absurdly high prices be demanded, and the article for sale is of secondary import (e.g. entertainment products), then an alternative to buying foreign goods, is to not buy at all! This has both the desirable effects of maintaining a balance of payments AND showing dissatisfaction with the pricing strategy being employed. Automobiles, for example, fit well under this scheme since, rather than buy an unsatisfactory product, one maintains the current manifestation. I acknowledge that this strategy is unrealistic, but claims of industrial `survivalists' who advocate `pressuring' manufactures by buying foreign products, quite conveniently ignore this alternative while sanctimoniously indulging in their every desire. This is not always the case, but of significant occurrence to warrant mention. R. -- Ray Tigg | Cognos Incorporated | P.O. Box 9707 (613) 738-1338 x5013 | 3755 Riverside Dr. UUCP: rayt@cognos.uucp | Ottawa, Ontario CANADA K1G 3Z4