Path: utzoo!lsuc!mnetor!philmtl!tremblay
From: tremblay@philmtl.philips.ca (Michel Tremblay)
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: Canada: Minority rights
Message-ID: <634@philmtl.philips.ca>
Date: 3 Aug 89 18:26:39 GMT
References: <632@philmtl.philips.ca> <1989Aug2.201110.21381@eci386.uucp>
Reply-To: tremblay@philmtl.philips.ca (Michel Tremblay)
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In article <1989Aug2.201110.21381@eci386.uucp> clewis@eci386.UUCP (Chris Lewis) writes:
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>There appears to be less provincial operational control of french 
>schools in Ontario than in the Quebec system w.r.t. english schools. 
>
Less money, not less operational control.

>Bill 101 specifically prohibits entry into the english school
>system for children not born of "anglophone" parents (it may even be as
>restrictive as "anglophone parents who attended Quebec english schools").  
>For an Italian immigrant (for example), there is no choice - their children

 
To qualify for English School, only one of the parents must have attended 
English School for one year. English School is defined as: School providing
at least 51% of the courses in English, ANYWHERE.

>*must* attend francophone schools.  
>
>Therefore, immigrants are not freely allowed to join the community of 
>their choice.
>

The immigrants are free to join the community of their choice. Their
childrens must learn the language of the majority and are not as free.
Not speaking the language of the majority is a severe handicap, therefore 
their children must speak French. Remember that Immigrants are not forced 
to come to Que'bec.

>In a sense, Canada is two countries w.r.t. immigration: you can either
>emmigrate to Quebec and your children *must* attend the French school 
>system (except in rare circumstances), or you can emmigrate elsewhere
>and you can usually choose which school your children attend (the
>"where numbers warrant" rule applies in Ontario for the creation of
>French schools)

Honestly, does it make any sense for Immigrants to go to Non English
schools outside Que'bec? It does not make sense to me.
Since most minority School systems outside Que'bec are not funded
properly, they simply cannot accept Immigrant anyway. Therefore
provinces other than Que'bec dont need School laws like bill 101.

>
>>Jobs are available for French and/or english speaking individuals. 
>
>Quebec is not all that much different - only in Quebec are there 
>legal requirements that a business must conduct its internal operations in 
>French if it's over a certain size.  

This is the theory. In practice things are very different. There are many
exceptions in the law. It is very easy to obtain a special status for a 
company, and numerous companies do have such a status. For instance,
the only linguistic requirement we have for technical jobs here 
(about 350 technical jobs) is English knowledge. 

>In other provinces it may be difficult
>to conduct internal operations in a language other than English, but it
>certainly isn't illegal, and *does* happen even in moderately large
>corporations.
>

Imagine one moment that XXXXophones (not anglophones) in Ontario run
many moderately large corporations and hire mostly XXXXophones. 
Picture this on a large scale, ie. on a scale significantly larger than
the XXXXophone population. Dont you thing the Ontario government would
do something about that? Of course...

>-- 
>Chris Lewis, R.H. Lathwell & Associates: Elegant Communications Inc.
>UUCP: {uunet!mnetor, utcsri!utzoo}!lsuc!eci386!clewis


Michel J. Tremblay, tremblay@philmtl.philips.ca
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