Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!ubc-cs!watmath!grand!rwwetmore From: rwwetmore@grand.waterloo.edu (Ross Wetmore) Newsgroups: can.general Subject: Re: Canada: Minority rights Message-ID: <28183@watmath.waterloo.edu> Date: 5 Aug 89 18:48:46 GMT References: <632@philmtl.philips.ca> <1599@hcr.UUCP> <1989Aug4.121135.22746@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Sender: daemon@watmath.waterloo.edu Reply-To: rwwetmore@grand.waterloo.edu (Ross Wetmore) Distribution: can Organization: U. of Waterloo, Ontario Lines: 42 In article <1989Aug4.121135.22746@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes: >jimr@hcr.UUCP (Jim Robinson) writes: >>(I also understand that school children were/are being punished for speaking >>minority languages during breaks - is this true?) > >Don't be ridiculous. Does it sound true? You can't believe everything you >hear. There is intense conflict between the Quebec French and new immigrants now that allophones are being integrated into formerly uni-cultural French schools. The bitter reaction to the use of languages other than French in school corridors and on school grounds was presented in a Journal documentary a few months back. Both kids and parents on both sides were quite upset, though there was a third group that recognized the need for mutual accomodation and multi-cultural tolerance. Given the segregation controversy in the US, is it a wonder that such things would not occur during the process of Quebec's reawakening and integration into the modern world. It is also a fact that in most of the other countries where French and another culture coexist, French dominanace or a strict separation into semi-autonomous blocks is usually found. Look at Martinique (French-Dutch) Haiti-Dominican Republic (complete separation), Belgium (Walloon-Flemish), Switzerland (canton system), New Caledonia (French-English-Polynesian). In France, many of the inhabitants of Alsace speak a German dialect in their own homes, or communities, but only French is permitted in any public forum. Canada is an interesting case, because in many ways the French revival has seen an attempt to break out of this this mould and form a much more integrated society. But, if French Canadians can drive out or suppress minority elements in their communities once they achieve a sufficient level of dominance, then I think Canada will have to face the unpleasantries of the more normal course of history. I think Trudeau uni-cultural (ie a totally bilingual amalgam) policies are as abhorent to the French for their own reasons as they are to much rest of the country. But this does not mean that a strictly delininated pair of uni-cultural camps is any better a solution. Ross W. Wetmore | rwwetmore@water.NetNorth University of Waterloo | rwwetmore@math.Uwaterloo.ca Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3G1 | {uunet, ubc-vision, utcsri} (519) 885-1211 ext 4719 | !watmath!rwwetmore