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From: jwi@lzfme.att.com (J.WINER)
Newsgroups: comp.ai
Subject: Re: Intelligence (was: IQ), Categorization (was: Racism)
Summary: The Gifted and the Gift
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Date: 31 Jul 89 14:01:13 GMT
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Mark William Hopkins writes:
> 
> Nobody, who is fluent in a human language, has the right to even regard
> themselves as being anything less than gifted.

And the gift that we "intelligent" people have been given is
wasted. What is the legacy you will leave for your children -- a
dying world? Look around you and observe -- the oceans are dying --
how much longer do you think our intelligent race will survive?

> >Most children I have seen seem to learn naturally and painlessly, *until*
> >they go to school. I also have a problem with your implication that the child
> >with learning deficits is simply not putting forth an effort. What motivates
> >one person to exert an effort, anyway?
> 
> Would it follow from this that most of our learning difficulties,
> intimidations, and anxieties occur as a RESULT of our education? and of the
> extensive negative programming too many of us receive as a child?
> 
> I think so.
> 
> As for the implication you have trouble with: don't make it.  I didn't, you
> shouldn't.
> 
> As for "technique", much of what I say above is common knoledge more so than
> the product of this individual's personal insight.

You know, if it were common knowledge, people wouldn't be arguing
with you about it, would they?

Jim Winer ..!lzfme!jwi (Usually unable to reply to email outside AT&T)

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