Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!mcvax!ukc!slxsys!ibmpcug!bobkil From: bobkil@ibmpcug.UUCP (Bob Kilgore) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans Subject: RE: Thin Ethernet Question Message-ID: <11147@ibmpcug.UUCP> Date: 4 Aug 89 10:49:58 GMT Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK. Lines: 54 There have been a number of posting's to Kenneth Herron who apparently had a "simple thin ethernet question". I can't seem to find the original posting and therefor can't E-Mail to him directly. I think, Kenneth, you have discovered that there is no such thing as a 'simple' ethernet question. For each question you can ask you can get any number of answers. While simple in concept, Ethernet (8802-3) can be complex enough to accommodate a wide variety of solutions. Since the real requirements are fairly loose a number of these solutions may fall outside the domain of ethernet. The majority of the responses to your question were correct and I am sure are viable. Some however imply further constraints on the system. One in particular imposes a constraint that may not be acceptable. That is the response from Frank Rahmani that suggested the 'glued' cable. Everything was OK until the suggestion that you use a 'right-corner' piece in the attachment to the tee. The area of interest in the standard, 8802-3, is paragraph 10.5.3 the total segment DC loop resistance shall not exceed 10 ohms. Each in-line connector pair shall contribute no more than 10 milli-ohms. In Mr. Rahmani's solution he has placed 2 (?) more mating pairs at each node. This will reduce your total node count per segment to about 10 from 30. For small segment node count a good way to go. If more nodes per segment are required then you may have to remove the corner connectors. Yet another possible answer is to use the AUI (transceiver) cable attachment on you PC interface card and run the coax inside the walls. You then have the choice of using thin or thick coax since the user will never see the cable. You could use any one of the new subminiature MAU's (transceivers) now beginning to appear on the market. For example the Fujikura FN 2400 series. Some of these can have an AUI cable permanently attached. ie: FN2100 series. My preferred solution, however, is to run fiber-optic cable now for the new installations, and eliminate the problems associated with electrical drop and transmission systems. Good Luck on your Ethernet bob bobkil@ipmpcug.co.uk !uunet!ibmpcug.co.uk!bobkil -- Automatic Disclaimer: The views expressed above are those of the author alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.