Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!cs.utexas.edu!romp!shaffer!jon From: jon@shaffer.UUCP (Jon Doran) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems Subject: Re: Full duplex / Half Duplex with Telebits Summary: Half Duplex with Telebit modems Message-ID: <2486@shaffer.UUCP> Date: 28 Jul 89 20:08:01 GMT References: <630@lakart.UUCP> <7461@cbmvax.UUCP> Organization: IBM AWD, Austin, TX Lines: 19 Telebit uses half duplex connections to avoid complicated echo cancellation. At each point where a modem is connected to a phone line, there is a small amount of echo. Thus a typical connection has two sources of echo. Now echo cancellation on a V32 connection is not THAT hard. V32 uses two frequencies near the center of the bandwidth, and the echo tends to shift in the band. But Telebit's PEP (not their V32!) does not use single character modulation, they use 512 frequencies distributed over the band. So the echo can appear to be valid traffic even after the frequency shift. The only easy solution at this point is to use half duplex connections, the echo is ignored completely. This does not cut into your bandwith; V32 used two frequencies for full duplex so Telebit would either need 1024 frequencies or would need to halve their transmission rate. BTW, a little T2500 trivia: Did you know that the T2500 is a 7.3 baud modem?? Jon Doran IBM AWD, Austin Tx