Path: utzoo!utgpu!watmath!att!ucbvax!ucsd!net1.ucsd.edu!rich From: rich@net1.ucsd.edu (bmf) Newsgroups: comp.graphics Subject: Color desktop scanners (a technical discussion begins) Message-ID: <1869@ucsd.EDU> Date: 29 Jul 89 00:33:29 GMT Sender: nobody@ucsd.EDU Reply-To: rich@net1.ucsd.edu (bmf) Organization: flying fish tongue ticklers Lines: 61 I have written software for color desktop scanners for about three years. In that time I have yet to see one that I really feel positive about. Most of them have some good points but... Anyway this discussion is for hobby purposes. The software I write for a living but the hardware a do at home for fun like any Buckaroo B. fan. Problem: Creating a desktop color scanner which is easy to use, has the quality of a drum scanner , and costs less than $3000 in parts. If we keep the discussion public we all gain a public domain scanner. Todays Scanners Todays scanners rely on either CCD arrays or video chips to collect a scan line, or block of pixel data. Both of these devices suffer from dynamic range problems. Determining black and white on them isn't that bad but getting a linear response is. Maybe a different technology should be applied here. Both of these devices need to be moved around the image (or the image moved around device) This means adapting some sort of stepper motor technology. This leads a loss of sharpness in the image. Some companies handle it better than others, but again maybe a different sort of solution is avaiable. Software solutions tend to be slow and make an image more crisp rather than match the original. The CCD technology relies on either color light bulbs or color filters to reproduce the color in the image. Nasty problems occur here. The spectral response of both the filters and the bulbs tend to look like overlapping upside down u's. So if you are using red, green, and blue filters, there are certain reds greens and blues which do not register at all. While there are some greens that come register as yellow and others that register as cyan. So a green grass may effectively dither out to a grey. (this really pisses off scanner salespeople if you scan an image like this in front of them at a trade show.) Both the CCDs and the Video chips rely on camera lenses to focus the image unfortunately a red, green, and blue light have different focal lengths, so again we have a small sharpness problem. Conclusion: You can do a good job with todays scanners but what about applying some other technologies. Are there CD lasers available in a variety of wavelengths? How about focusing one of the spectral analysis devices onto a ccd array and any diode which shows a response gets added into the color value of the current pixel being scanned (too slow huh?). This could be fun. -Rich /* Rich Stewart {dcdwest,ucbvax}!ucsd!net1!rich */