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From: coy@ssc-vax.UUCP (Stephen B Coy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics
Subject: Re: Nagel freak needs *.gifs!!!!!! Please e-mail...
Message-ID: <2832@ssc-vax.UUCP>
Date: 2 Aug 89 23:13:53 GMT
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In article <817@micropen>, dave@micropen (David F. Carlson) writes:
> In article <2685@cbnewsh.ATT.COM>, cab@cbnewsh.ATT.COM (CAB) writes:
> > 
> > The only place you err in your statement is where you redefine the fair use
> > clause of copyright law.  It is generally not permissible to take someone's
> > work without compensation, even if it is for private use.
> 
> Respectfully, I believe that private use is legitimate use.  For example,
> taping movies from HBO on your VCR for private viewing is is acceptable.  
> These are almost certainly are copyrighted materials and are used in whole.
> (This was a big court case several years ago and was ruled OK.)
> Taping a CD for my car is legititate use.  Copying a poem for school at the 
> copier in the *library* provided for just such use, is a legitimate use.

Whoa.  Hold on.  I think your examples are getting a little bit out
of the picture.  When you tape a CD for use in your car, that is
covered by the concept of fair use ONLY if you own the CD.  You have
already purchased the right to use that CD and taping it for use in
your car is excercising that right.  When you tape a movie off HBO
you have already paid for the right to view the movie.  Now if you
give either tape to a friend that is not fair use but is instead
called piracy.  Just because it is for the private use of your
friend doesn't make any difference.  Getting back to Nagels, if I
buy "The Book" and digitize some of the art work in it that falls
under fair use.  If I distribute those images, I have violated the
copyright law.

> David F. Carlson, Micropen, Inc.
> micropen!dave@ee.rochester.edu

Stephen Coy
uw-beaver!ssc-vax!coy