Path: utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!indri!pikes!udenva!isis!nbires!hardy!nbife!ron From: ron@nbife.NBI.COM (Ron Schweikert) Newsgroups: comp.misc Subject: Re: Backup motivation (Was: Need HELP recovering files from tar damage) Keywords: Backup Message-ID: <1096@nbife.NBI.COM> Date: 28 Jul 89 14:13:50 GMT References: <4385@merlin.usc.edu> <18567@mimsy.UUCP> <11668@orstcs.CS.ORST.EDU> <200@iclswe.UUCP> Organization: NBI Inc., Headquarters Service Centers Lines: 21 In article <200@iclswe.UUCP>, lars@iclswe.UUCP (Lars Tunkrans) writes: (a couple paragraphs on a customer who lost data, then...) > How do you guys make people do their bakups ? > Sorry, the mail bounced hence this posting. It's probably really obvious to everyone, but to answer Lars question, you can't really *make* them do backups. (It's like smoking, they have to want to.) How do you make them want to? Unfortunately with most customers, they don't *want* to until they have lost data. All you can do in advance is to try to tell them that no matter how great your hardware is, you can't control the thunderstorms, the power company etc. Things happen that are unforseen. I can't recall personally that I've ever had to work with a customer who lost data *twice*. They learn after the first time, unfortunately the hard way... -- Ron Schweikert 303/444-5710 x5026 {allegra,ucbvax,ncar,isieng}!nbires!hardy!nbife!ron